You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.

Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Tom Scola - Oct 16, 2016 8:19:26 am PDT #9907 of 10289
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I agree.


sj - Oct 16, 2016 8:32:04 am PDT #9908 of 10289
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yes, tomorrow night is good.


Sean K - Oct 16, 2016 8:34:20 am PDT #9909 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Agreed on all counts.


Jessica - Oct 16, 2016 8:37:48 am PDT #9910 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think we should follow our own rules here, and either use our official three strikes standard, or vote to make an exception and ban immediately.


aurelia - Oct 16, 2016 8:38:59 am PDT #9911 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Thank you, Jesse.


Steph L. - Oct 16, 2016 8:39:26 am PDT #9912 of 10289
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I suspect that, as Laura says, it is a deeply rooted unconscious issue rather than outright malice, but that doesn't matter. The end result is the same.

Yes. I believe everyone who has shared that Sunil's behavior made them uncomfortable and unsafe, to the point where some people have left the board or drastically curtailed their involvement. The way he's interacted with me, here and on FB (I'm not active on Twitter), has never made me, personally, feel uncomfortable. But my own POV based on our interactions is absolutely NOT relevant when people have been hurt.

Sunil, if you read this: please do the work to do better, to BE better.

I'm fine with a consensus, and with waiting until tomorrow night to allow plenty of time for people to see this and weigh in.


-t - Oct 16, 2016 8:54:04 am PDT #9913 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

My only concern, but it's actually a big concern, with consensing to ban is that we are not following our established procedure and I think voting in this exceptional case is suitable. I volunteer to count votes.

This is not about punishing Polter-Cow or teaching him or anything to do with him, really, except his effect on the board. We need to protect our community, which has been damaged. I kinda feel like I just got told that that twinge in my knee that I thought was just a thing that happened when a storm was coming is actually a tumor. How could I not have noticed?

Except I know many habits and characteristics I have that would let me not notice. I'm so sorry.


Dana - Oct 16, 2016 9:02:34 am PDT #9914 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Okay, if we're going to follow the voting timeline, how long do we consider the proposal? 3 days? Are all of these details only in the cheesebutt document?


msbelle - Oct 16, 2016 9:02:51 am PDT #9915 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I thought it was said that banning is not listed as a voting issue. Is the issue that there was not other steps first.

Really either way (voting/consensus) I am fine. I am also good with this staying open through end of day Monday and if voting is the decision, I volunteer as tribute to take the votes.


Dana - Oct 16, 2016 9:04:40 am PDT #9916 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yeah, we'd basically be voting to skip the three-strikes process and ban immediately.