open for discussion. - Dana gets to post first.
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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
msbelle - Oct 15, 2016 1:51:08 pm PDT #9763 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Dana - Oct 15, 2016 1:56:57 pm PDT #9764 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Proposal: Ban Polter-Cow from the board by consensus, without going through the official voting process.
Background: In the past couple of days on Twitter, I've seen several writers discussing what they consider a pattern of harassment by Polter-Cow. Anyone interested in what's happening on Twitter can search on his real name, Sunil Patel. (He has linked his pseud and his real name repeatedly on the board, so I feel comfortable using it.)
In discussing this with other board members, I have been made aware of several people who he has made uncomfortable with his behavior and actions, to the point that they have avoided threads he posts in or F2F events he's part of, or they have left the board entirely. I think we should ban him for this consistent and long-standing pattern of behavior.
Laura - Oct 15, 2016 2:01:41 pm PDT #9765 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
It is with sadness that I have to agree. This board is precious to me and it hurts me that members feel uncomfortable with his presence.
Kat - Oct 15, 2016 2:03:34 pm PDT #9766 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Any consistently behavior that drives multiple users away shows an egregious pattern and needs to be censured.
Dana - Oct 15, 2016 2:04:22 pm PDT #9767 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
As far as I'm concerned, I haven't had any problems with him. But I don't feel like those who've had should feel obligated to post any details they don't want to. As a society, I hope we're getting past the point of seeing woman after woman say "This happened to me," and disbelieving them.
Jesse - Oct 15, 2016 2:05:18 pm PDT #9768 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Agreed. If I had heard all of the stories I heard today at the time, I would have said this years ago, I hope.
Or, frankly, my tolerance for poor behavior from men is at an all-time low right now. That doesn't make the behavior any less poor.
Hil R. - Oct 15, 2016 2:07:19 pm PDT #9769 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
There are several people who'd left the board who I really missed, and I just learned today that they left at least partially because of him, though I don't know the specifics.
erikaj - Oct 15, 2016 2:12:43 pm PDT #9770 of 10289
Always Anti-fascist!
I'm torn, because he got on my nerves a lot, but this is a "win" I can't relish.
Beverly - Oct 15, 2016 2:15:37 pm PDT #9771 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
As far as I'm concerned, I haven't had any problems with him. But I don't feel like those who've had should feel obligated to post any details they don't want to. As a society, I hope we're getting past the point of seeing woman after woman say "This happened to me," and disbelieving them.
Dana speaks for me. I've no need for testimony, you have my consent to ban.
JZ - Oct 15, 2016 2:16:26 pm PDT #9772 of 10289
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
What Hil said. I've never had any problems with him myself, at all, but it's deeply upsetting to know that other long-time Buffistas have come to feel so uncomfortable around him that they have chosen to exclude themselves from the community. And it's important because, as a community, we make it such a priority to connect F2F as well as on the board; if multiple people are opting out of engaging at all in order to avoid one person, that's a problem for the whole community.