Couldn't the wording be phrased to say something like: "This is a board where promoting projects is fine, but spamming is not." Then it could be handled mostly in thread. But I think spamming is pretty obvious, because it's not coming from a community member who is actively discussing something in the business thread, or known elsewhere on the board.
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DavidS - May 23, 2011 2:19:46 pm PDT #9502 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
§ ita § - May 23, 2011 2:33:04 pm PDT #9503 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Then what's the difference between spam and pimping?
Strix - May 23, 2011 2:37:42 pm PDT #9504 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
That kind of sums up my thought; I mean, I would NEVER link to Buffistas from my site and no other Buffista would either.
We're pretty self-policing, and people tend to be diffident, IMO.
I'm thinking of any self-promo would be along the lines of "Hey, all, my site is live at Me.com, feel free to pass this info on or link to my biz on your site" or "Ive added X service to my biz at Me.com, if anyone knows someone who might be interested."
And if someone would go beyond bounds peeps are likely to do what we always do -- politely say "Hmmm, this isn't really what this thread is for. What do you think, all?"
But I see it more as a "How they heck do I track this/claim this/promote this/HELP!" thread.
beekaytee - May 23, 2011 2:38:55 pm PDT #9505 of 10289
Compassionately intolerant
ita, am I understanding you correctly that pimping would be offering a product or service to someone else in the community with a price attached...without having previously been asked for that offering?
I'm asking so that I can be clear about the difference between pimping and spamming.
Strix - May 23, 2011 2:42:21 pm PDT #9506 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
ita, I honestly see spam as non-participatory in the conversation people just falling in and linking to their biz: Buy my stuff!
I really think active Buffistas would use it as a thread to ask questions that might get lost in Natter or Bitches, et. al.
And if say, bonny (using bonny as random example) posted "Hey, I need some copy for my business" then someone could either email her, or post "Check out my site at Me.com and see if you think we would be a good fit" or such.
beekaytee - May 23, 2011 2:44:09 pm PDT #9507 of 10289
Compassionately intolerant
Oh god, Erin. The very idea of linking to b.org gives me the shivers. I'm so paranoidprotective of this place that I think I've mentioned the actual name to anyone 'out there' twice in the whole time I've been here.
DavidS - May 23, 2011 2:45:34 pm PDT #9508 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Then what's the difference between spam and pimping?
Who's doing it and how often.
Who: People we know.
How often: Offering a new service or periodically mentioning your services would be fine. Spamming, or repeatedly, hitting the thread with offers and announcements is different.
Do we need to put a number on the difference between occasionally and repeatedly? I don't think it will be that hard to parse. As a matter of board etiquette I expect people will not want to compromise their standing by being seen as spamming the thread.
If it was an issue it could be addressed in thread. Like, "That's the fifth time this month you've posted your services. That's a mis-use of this thread."
beekaytee - May 23, 2011 2:47:14 pm PDT #9509 of 10289
Compassionately intolerant
And if say, bonny (using bonny as random example) posted "Hey, I need some copy for my business" then someone could either email her, or post "Check out my site at Me.com and see if you think we would be a good fit"
Funny you should say this Erin, as it is a strong likelihood that I will be doing this in the very near future (are you reading my mail? Is there a camera in here?).
I would LOVE to have a list of all the stuff Buffistas offer so that I might take advantage of those offerings. I'd much rather see 'us' succeed than google some stranger.
Liese S. - May 23, 2011 2:53:04 pm PDT #9510 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I dunno. I would want it to be a pretty clear line, if it's something I'm going to have to enforce as a stompy.
And at that rate, why should it just be buffista business owners? Should every buffista be able to promote the products of her employer?
As originally described, I thought it would be for discussing business, but not directly tied to the businesses in question at all. I mean, I can give advice on incorporating a non-profit without you ever knowing which one is mine.
I've been very careful not to solicit donations here, but there are Buffistas who give. We find our way to the Buffista author books pretty easily without having to link to Powells' half price sales.
Strix - May 23, 2011 2:53:14 pm PDT #9511 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
(are you reading my mail? Is there a camera in here?).
Yes, and yes, and you ass looks GREAT!
David, that's a pretty good summation of my thoughts.
I would LOVE to have a list of all the stuff Buffistas offer so that I might take advantage of those offerings. I'd much rather see 'us' succeed than google some stranger.
So much THIS.