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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


beekaytee - May 23, 2011 2:44:09 pm PDT #9507 of 10289
Compassionately intolerant

Oh god, Erin. The very idea of linking to b.org gives me the shivers. I'm so paranoidprotective of this place that I think I've mentioned the actual name to anyone 'out there' twice in the whole time I've been here.


DavidS - May 23, 2011 2:45:34 pm PDT #9508 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Then what's the difference between spam and pimping?

Who's doing it and how often.

Who: People we know.

How often: Offering a new service or periodically mentioning your services would be fine. Spamming, or repeatedly, hitting the thread with offers and announcements is different.

Do we need to put a number on the difference between occasionally and repeatedly? I don't think it will be that hard to parse. As a matter of board etiquette I expect people will not want to compromise their standing by being seen as spamming the thread.

If it was an issue it could be addressed in thread. Like, "That's the fifth time this month you've posted your services. That's a mis-use of this thread."


beekaytee - May 23, 2011 2:47:14 pm PDT #9509 of 10289
Compassionately intolerant

And if say, bonny (using bonny as random example) posted "Hey, I need some copy for my business" then someone could either email her, or post "Check out my site at Me.com and see if you think we would be a good fit"

Funny you should say this Erin, as it is a strong likelihood that I will be doing this in the very near future (are you reading my mail? Is there a camera in here?).

I would LOVE to have a list of all the stuff Buffistas offer so that I might take advantage of those offerings. I'd much rather see 'us' succeed than google some stranger.


Liese S. - May 23, 2011 2:53:04 pm PDT #9510 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I dunno. I would want it to be a pretty clear line, if it's something I'm going to have to enforce as a stompy.

And at that rate, why should it just be buffista business owners? Should every buffista be able to promote the products of her employer?

As originally described, I thought it would be for discussing business, but not directly tied to the businesses in question at all. I mean, I can give advice on incorporating a non-profit without you ever knowing which one is mine.

I've been very careful not to solicit donations here, but there are Buffistas who give. We find our way to the Buffista author books pretty easily without having to link to Powells' half price sales.


Strix - May 23, 2011 2:53:14 pm PDT #9511 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

(are you reading my mail? Is there a camera in here?).

Yes, and yes, and you ass looks GREAT!

David, that's a pretty good summation of my thoughts.

I would LOVE to have a list of all the stuff Buffistas offer so that I might take advantage of those offerings. I'd much rather see 'us' succeed than google some stranger.

So much THIS.


Jesse - May 23, 2011 2:57:21 pm PDT #9512 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ita, I honestly see spam as non-participatory in the conversation people just falling in and linking to their biz: Buy my stuff!

Yeah, that's my thinking as well.


Amy - May 23, 2011 2:57:28 pm PDT #9513 of 10289
Because books.

As originally described, I thought it would be for discussing business, but not directly tied to the businesses in question at all.

This is where I am with it.

If everyone in the thread is promoting their own services, in whatever way, how does it not become a little sticky when more than one person is in the same type of business? Especially when you're talking about services that can be done remotely, it's not like saying, "Hey, in Toledo I know of a great stylist."


Strix - May 23, 2011 2:57:50 pm PDT #9514 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I see your point, Liese, on the stompiness. However, wouldn't the thread be pretty self-policing, and then a stompy would only have to step in if someone was WAY out of line and continued despite suggestions that their actions were de trop?

And that's an interesting point you make about businesses and non-profits. I'll have to mull that over for a bit.


Strix - May 23, 2011 3:00:54 pm PDT #9515 of 10289
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Amy, I suppose we could limit it to watercooler talk, but if someone should come in and say "I need X; Bueller? Bueller?" then peeps could respomd via profile addy.

I mean, that's how it's gone down in the past and AFAIK, there's been no tension. I know I've emailed peeps and offered services after a plea and not been right for the job, and bear no one any animosity or resentment.


Ginger - May 23, 2011 3:02:11 pm PDT #9516 of 10289
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I didn't think of the thread as promoting anything, except for someone saying "Look at my new website" or "I've put up an Etsy store."