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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Stephanie - Apr 10, 2009 1:36:04 am PDT #9159 of 10289
Trust my rage

I always try to trust the the first new post about a new ep will alert me to a new ep since I watch evrythng via Tivo. It kind of sucks when there is a HUGE spoiler (a la House this week) in the first few posts, even though it's my own fault for not being more careful.


brenda m - Apr 10, 2009 3:49:27 am PDT #9160 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The more I read the more I find myself coming down on ita's angle - I don't think it's a problem that it's not always obvious, and that you sometimes find parallel discussions or have to ask where to find something. Particularly not with the new Film & TV discussions link showing on the page any time you're in any TV thread.

I don't have any strong feelings, really, wrt single show v. buckets. I get more out of SPN as a separate thread because I keep unsubbing from Boxed Set all the time when I get behind, but I also like the cross-show talk both there and in Natter. For the low traffic threads, I think I actually floated closing some of them about six months or a year ago, and was convinced otherwise. I don't think I'd be on board with more new threads just to sort out some overlapping definitions.

Re tagging: if I'm trying to find discussion I think I've missed, it's usually easy enough to search either by the name of the show or sometimes major character names to find where things come up. Shrug. I don't see an issue, but obviously some people see it otherwise. But I can't remember to tag my once a month lj posts, I'm sure as hell not going to be able to do it for show talk with any reliability.

Day-of-week or by network threads would be totally unmanagable via Tivo, for me anyway, since I no longer really know when or when anything is on unless they're the few shows I race home to watch in real time.


Jessica - Apr 10, 2009 4:18:40 am PDT #9161 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I wonder if we could clarify what we're actually talking about? I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what the actual proposal is here - what we're going to be voting on.


Fay - Apr 10, 2009 6:40:41 am PDT #9162 of 10289
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I don't feel the need for any changes.

Were changes to be made, I would find show-specific threads (such as the SPN thread) a better option than piling everything together into one thread. (The downside is the further fragmentation of the community, I guess, but it seems to me that we're already pretty damn fragmented.)

But I don't think it's broke or needs fixing right now, myself.


Vortex - Apr 10, 2009 6:56:27 am PDT #9163 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that the only change should be the addition of a drama thread :)


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 6:57:00 am PDT #9164 of 10289
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I wonder if we could clarify what we're actually talking about? I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what the actual proposal is here - what we're going to be voting on.

I didn't realize until yesterday that the conversation/proposal started because of a joke:

I also joked that I wanted to rethink the bucket threads, which was seconded and thirded, and you see where that has gotten us.

If this conversation is worthwhile, then that's good, but I really dislike the idea of voting on a change to the board's structure that started as a joke.


megan walker - Apr 10, 2009 7:09:03 am PDT #9165 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Well, a joke in that I hadn't really intended to make a formal proposal, but I have been thinking we should have the conversation for a while, which is how I framed the initial proposal. I was planning on threadsucking today and seeing if anything concrete can be wrangled out of the discussion.


Strega - Apr 10, 2009 7:26:51 am PDT #9166 of 10289

I don't think it's a problem that it's not always obvious, and that you sometimes find parallel discussions or have to ask where to find something.

Okay, but if you ask, and you get several different answers, then what? This began because Cindy asked where Cupid should go. All the posts I dug up earlier involved people giving different answers to "what goes where" questions.

If asking means days of debate every time... then I think the answer to "Is it really that scary to ask?" is probably "yes."


megan walker - Apr 10, 2009 8:01:13 am PDT #9167 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

There's obviously a number of problems we won't solve to everyone's satisfaction. However, I do think the listing idea proposed by omnis, Scrappy, and (way back when) Strega has a lot of merit.

Could we come up with a system where every 4 months (May, September, January) we modify slugs to reflect what's being discussed? Then people can see everything on the Film and TV page.

Here are the current slugs and headers:

Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.
Slug: Thread for discussion of procedural television shows. [NAFDA]
Header: This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case.

Comedy 1: A Little Song, a Little Dance, a Little Seltzer Down Your Pants
Slug: Thread for discussion of comedy television shows. [NAFDA]
Header: This thread is for comedy TV, including network and cable shows. [NAFDA]

Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
Slug: Discussions of sci-fi/fantasy shows we watch. Smallville, Due South, Farscape, Stargate, BSG, etc. May contain HoYay.

Header: A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.

Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
Slug: Thread for the discussion of original cable drama--but not scifi/fantasy (that's Boxed Set!) or pay-to-play (that's Premium Cable!). Psychics, detectives, surgeons, and firemen welcome. [NAFDA]
Header: To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])

Premium Cable: The Cursing Costs Extra Slug: Discussions of HBO and Showtime original programming. Deadwood, Entourage, Big Love, Brotherhood, Weeds, Dexter, etc. [NAFDA]
Header: A thread for the discussion of all HBO and Showtime original programming.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.

Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own
Slug: Thread for discussion of non-fiction television, including documentaries and reality shows. [NAFDA]
Header: This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (The Amazing Race, Survivor, Top Chef), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Mythbusters, Ghost Hunters), et al. [NAFDA]


Jon B. - Apr 10, 2009 8:40:00 am PDT #9168 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Could we come up with a system where every 4 months (May, September, January) we modify slugs to reflect what's being discussed? Then people can see everything on the Film and TV page.

Is that your proposal? Because I don't think that's something that needs a vote.