Could we come up with a system where every 4 months (May, September, January) we modify slugs to reflect what's being discussed? Then people can see everything on the Film and TV page.

Is that your proposal? Because I don't think that's something that needs a vote.

I'm not really sure what needs a vote. Maybe just the concept that they would be changed every X months? And that the actual decision about what goes in happens by BS consensus either 1) in thread or 2) in bureaucracy.

I'm imagining slugs that look more like the one in Premium Cable.

The 4 months thing would enable us to handle the shifting TV seasons more.

So, under this system, we would have theoretically decided in January where we would be discussing Cupid now. Is that the idea?

No, any show could go in whichever thread was appropriate for that show. The slugs wouldn't be all-inclusive. This would just be a system to keep them more current and helpful than they are now.

So, if Cupid is starting to be discussed now in Boxed Set we could change the head this time around to reflect that. It could be more often than 4 months, but that might be crazy making.

I'm happy to volunteer to be the reminder on whatever schedule is decided on.

So, just a periodic review of the slugs. That sounds reasonable.

If asking means days of debate every time... then I think the answer to "Is it really that scary to ask?" is probably "yes."

Well, I'm sorry I asked, if that means anything.

I think it does. Because you shouldn't have to be.

I don't recall there being a debate most times. I don't think anyone should worry about asking. It's usually pretty simple.

I don't see the problem in discussing where a new show will go when the genre is unclear to people. Even if it often generates a bunch of "Boxed Set works/doesn't work for me" posts. That's just how we roll.

I don't expect any TV discussion structure to ever be perfect for everyone, but I think our current approach has been fairly successful.

I wonder if we could clarify what we're actually talking about? I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what the actual proposal is here - what we're going to be voting on.

I was a little confused by that as well. This seemed to be a discussion topic more than a voting proposal. Did it get the seconds to move here in order to keep the discussion out of Bureau or to give it a time limit?

This seemed to be a discussion topic more than a voting proposal.

I thought the point of lightbulbs was to hammer out a formal proposal based on discussion (or not, if it didn't look like it made sense to have an official vote).

I asked in Bureau:

Can I propose rethinking the TV structure in general (the bucket threads, but also Boxed Set) or do I have to have a specific plan ahead of proposal?

And ita responded:

Whatever you propose now is what you propose now. You can add or remove stuff the whole time Lightbulbs is open. But I'll need some sort of text to kick things off with, and that has to be what people second and third, etc.

In this case, it doesn't seem to make sense to vote on the bucket threads since no one really expressed interest in closing them.

It doesn't seem we can solve the issue of what exactly goes in Boxed Set (or other buckets) except through trial and error. I think there are people for whom the current structure doesn't work, but, beyond what has been suggested about clarification via lists in the slugs (or elsewhere), I haven't seen anything that might work. Whether that is something that would need to be voted on is unclear to me.