I look at Cupid like a Wonderfalls. And, had there not been a Minearverse, it never would have occurred to me to look in Boxed Set for the Wonderfalls discussion. I understand the reasoning now but those shows (like Ally McBeal or Eli Stone) don't feel SciFi -- or even SyFy (HA!) -- to me.

Hilariously, a quick Nilly for JoA discussion leads here:

Theodosia "Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape" Apr 12, 2004 3:52:23 pm PDT

like Ally McBeal

Ha! I was thinking about where that one would have gone out on the porch a while ago. But I decided it was her own psychoses at play. Is that what Eli Stone is like, too?

Just as a datapoint, Kings isn't just AU; there are fantasy elements in it, crown of butterflies, smoke blowing against the wind. I mean, there's evidently an extant and functioning "God" character who does stuff and directs people.

I realize that this makes me, one of the board's putative Christians, positing the verifiable existence of God in a show as classifying it as fantasy, but I'm willing to roll with the irony.

But really, it seems pretty clear as an "F" in SFF to me.

And back on the larger point, I think it's worthwhile to go through the exercise of thinking through how we use things periodically, as we do. I hope we can keep tempers on a even keel as clearly we use things and perceive things differently, but primarily I hope we're still a community that cares about each other and wants to talk to each other about awesome stuff. So we'll shape how we do that, and that's a good thing.

Plus, Al Swearigen has not said "cocksucker" once.

Just as a datapoint, Kings isn't just AU; there are fantasy elements in it

Ah, I did not know that about Kings. What I get for talking about something I haven't seen... even though I admitted it!

Well, it seems, then, that if there's a show where there's doubt about how to classify, we discuss and decide? [ETA: I would say in Bureau, not Natter.] Yyyyeahhhh, because coming to agreement is likely. I suppose if it's really a hot debate, we could vote.

What's the show in contention right now, Cupid? And is Eli Stone discussed anywhere? Should there be Network Drama to round out Cable, Premium, and Comedy?

I'm not sure we need hard and fast rules on where to discuss a particular show. Discussion seems to grow organically and, as long as there's some justification, it's okay. People can ask for directions on their favorite shows, and it's hardly a burden to point over there.

I think of Natter as a thread where nothing is off-topic. So TV discussion is perfectly fine there. (Though it's also fine to point people politely to another thread where discussion alreay happens.)

The only real problem I have with Boxed Set is when I feel discussion about a slightly less popular show is being drowned out by discussion about a show more people watch. Pushing Daisies and Chuck felt to me like they belonged there. For Chuck not only for the intersect aspect, but also for the general geekiness of the show. Eli Stone and Ally McBeal don't feel like a fit to me.

I'm good with that on a personal level, too, Frank. I think I'm seeing discussion here that it's problematic for others, particularly with respect to a lot of shows defaulting to Boxed Set (when they see an argument to be made otherwise, I think). I mean, I love BS and hug it and pet it and call it George (apparently with no commas whatsoever), but... oh, I don't even know.

But I agree that Natter is totally a place for TV discussion, too. (ETA: and the slug tells me so!)

it's hardly a burden to point over there.

I am so burdened by this. Kidding.