Well, to take the example that started this, Cupid, I don't see the need to decide right away if it's a fit for Boxed Set until we know how and how much people are talking about it.

Again, I'm coming at this from the angle that I don't really want to be in Boxed Set on a regular basis and see what pops up there. I'd rather the default be Natter.

Wasn't Boxed Set kept because of that community's culture?

But what is your criteria for adding a show to Boxed Set? A quantifiable volume of discussion? High? Low? You're moving away from a bright line, not towards one.

I don't see a reason to disband Boxed Set--I think it has a proven function in keeping like discussion together, and the precise reason for keeping it doesn't negate that.

I could see an argument for keeping procedurals since it’s theme-based, and the case-of-the-week structure might mean a different tolerance for spoilers

Boxed Set is theme-based...

I've never considered closing Boxed Set. It's a question of what goes there. From the discussion today, it seems that that is not always clear.

I have no idea how to convince someone that mythology or time travel fall under science fiction and fantasy. It seems so well-defined to me.

I don't see the benefit to making it some sff instead of everything we agree is sff. Are you keeping Cupid out because you don't want it there, because it gets too little discussion, because it gets too much discussion, because you didn't know it was there, because it's not sff? I absolutely don't get the rationale for muddying the waters further, especially if the reason is that they're already a little muddy.

I don't see the benefit to making it some sff instead of everything we agree is sff.

It's not clear to me that everyone does agree on what is sff. Just today a few shows were mentioned that people weren't sure were Boxed Set. I thought the confusion merited a re-examination of the TV issues. But maybe no one else cares to start that up again. That's fine.

I have to get packing, but I'm eager to see if other people care to weigh in on this over the next couple of days.

If everyone doesn't agree what's sff, then discussing that seems a lot more reasonable to me than repurposing the thread.

then discussing that seems a lot more reasonable to me than repurposing the thread.

Word. If Cupid is good, and I end up wanting to talk about it, I'm screwed if it doesn't fit in Boxed Set. Which is fair, I guess, if everyone decides it's not a genre show.

You know what? Megan said she wouldn't have watched Leverage if it hadn't been discussed in Natter. Why was it discussed in Natter when it had a perfectly good home in the Cable Drama thread? Because people brought it up there. That's all it took. It was still discussed in Cable Drama, and by some of the same people.

But there's no rule saying any show can't be discussed in Natter, as long as proper spoiler-fonting is practiced.

As far as a genre thread goes, I can't see any good reason not to have it be home to all genre shows, and I don't see any reason for us not to discuss what is and what isn't genre. Keeping some shows formally out of it for reasons not yet articulated doesn't make sense to me.

I only knew to watch Leverage because of the discussion in Cable Drama. And I'm grateful for it.

The only time I have ever caught up in Natter has been holidays or the start of a thread. If the discussion of a show was there, I would never see it. I'm good with that if I am the minority experience, but from Consuela's post, maybe I am not.

Natter, for me, has been Buffistas' daily experiences, or what is happening in lives, or a place to gather when something significant happens (Inauguration W&P). Even with my non day to day participation, I get benefit from Natter in that way.

For me it has been a good experience to have the separate threads to go when I wanted to see or discuss something about television specifically. I also like Boxed Set as a big sff bucket because I get my cross pollination of show discussion but if something is going on with me personally I can still run over to Natter and say, "hey guys look at this cool thing" without taking away from the show discussions. I understand it is going to be a different experience for others...so just putting a voice out there. Now I have to go to work, so I wont be able to see the discussion until this evening. Whoever invented work sucks!