Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.

'First Date'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Feb 17, 2009 3:38:20 pm PST #9004 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The Press announcement is up:

Voting Has Begun!

And with that, I close this thread.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2009 4:10:03 pm PDT #9005 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

megan walker "Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job" Apr 8, 2009 6:05:41 pm PDT

Official proposal:
Rethinking the structure and/or continued existence of the following bucket threads: Boxed Set, Cable Drama, Comedy, Procedurals, and Premium Cable.


Jon B. - Apr 08, 2009 5:29:20 pm PDT #9006 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm moving this weekend and haven't yet set up Internet or anything.

Megan, are you going to be able to propose final language on Sunday night? Because that's when we'll need it.


Jon B. - Apr 08, 2009 5:31:33 pm PDT #9007 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yoghurt.

Because if you're going to be dark, it may make sense to postpone discussing your proposal until next week.


megan walker - Apr 08, 2009 7:30:27 pm PDT #9008 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Rethinking the structure and/or continued existence of the following bucket threads: Boxed Set, Cable Drama, Comedy, Procedurals, and Premium Cable.

As a follow-up, some counts:

Posts since 1/1:
Procedurals: 500
Cable Drama: 190
Comedy: 155
Premium Cable: 39

Posts in the last year:
Procedurals: 1753
Cable Drama: 1335
Comedy: 711
Premium Cable: 654

Based on that, I would be inclined to close all of them. Although I could see an argument for keeping procedurals since it’s theme-based, and the case-of-the-week structure might mean a different tolerance for spoilers, as with the reality thread.

As for Boxed Set, I guess in my ideal world, we would see what kind of discussion shows generate (and how much) before moving them there.

X-posted with Bureaucracy


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2009 7:40:30 pm PDT #9009 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we would see what kind of discussion shows generate (and how much) before moving them there.

What sort of shows? And what sort of discussion warrants a move?


megan walker - Apr 08, 2009 7:50:35 pm PDT #9010 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Well, to take the example that started this, Cupid, I don't see the need to decide right away if it's a fit for Boxed Set until we know how and how much people are talking about it.

Again, I'm coming at this from the angle that I don't really want to be in Boxed Set on a regular basis and see what pops up there. I'd rather the default be Natter.

Wasn't Boxed Set kept because of that community's culture?


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2009 7:59:56 pm PDT #9011 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But what is your criteria for adding a show to Boxed Set? A quantifiable volume of discussion? High? Low? You're moving away from a bright line, not towards one.

I don't see a reason to disband Boxed Set--I think it has a proven function in keeping like discussion together, and the precise reason for keeping it doesn't negate that.

I could see an argument for keeping procedurals since it’s theme-based, and the case-of-the-week structure might mean a different tolerance for spoilers

Boxed Set is theme-based...


megan walker - Apr 08, 2009 8:11:34 pm PDT #9012 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I've never considered closing Boxed Set. It's a question of what goes there. From the discussion today, it seems that that is not always clear.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2009 8:17:30 pm PDT #9013 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have no idea how to convince someone that mythology or time travel fall under science fiction and fantasy. It seems so well-defined to me.

I don't see the benefit to making it some sff instead of everything we agree is sff. Are you keeping Cupid out because you don't want it there, because it gets too little discussion, because it gets too much discussion, because you didn't know it was there, because it's not sff? I absolutely don't get the rationale for muddying the waters further, especially if the reason is that they're already a little muddy.