Hec's idea on pegging quorum to the number of active participants is interesting. To play with it (because I'd say I'm intrigued rather than supporting so far), a big question would be to define "active." Maybe those that have posted at least once in the last month? Or the last full calendar month, if that's easier for the tech-inclined to get a reliable number? Pegging the percentage fairly high because lurkers don't count as active posters, but they can register and vote.
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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Fred Pete - May 16, 2008 5:14:33 am PDT #8787 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.
Jesse - May 16, 2008 5:16:24 am PDT #8788 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
There have been close to a hundred votes on some issues, so I think it's fair to say there are at least a hundred active posters.
msbelle - May 16, 2008 5:19:47 am PDT #8789 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
past recent votes cover 2 posts here : Jesse "Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job" May 11, 2008 9:19:50 am PDT
DavidS - May 16, 2008 5:35:59 am PDT #8790 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I just went back through Press announcements and the number of votes cast in some past votes (there should be a separate word for this) were: 65, 77, 93, 92, 59, 69, 49.
I did a quick scan of the past 10 votes (which appears to be all of them since April 2007) and the average number of votes cast was 72.5, max of 93 and min of 49.
Maybe that's where I got 72 - with the average number of votes.
So if we pegged it as high as 72 and eliminated No Preference, then only three of the last seven threads would've been enacted.
Stephanie - May 16, 2008 5:46:50 am PDT #8791 of 10289
Trust my rage
I had been talking about vote counts over in Bureaucracy and, in my mind, somewhat conflating the idea with our quorum vote. THey are separate things but related, I think.
One possible idea, I think, is to decide that a vote must pass by more than a simple majority (60%, 70%) and not worry about the minimum vote total. I don't think the minimum vote amount has ever factored into a decision so it seems irrelevant. However, requiring more consensus before creating a thread might prompt us to work for more consensus and/or be more creative in our thread creation proposals.
Frankenbuddha - May 16, 2008 5:48:14 am PDT #8792 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Waits for someone to bring up preferential voting
Vortex - May 16, 2008 5:50:10 am PDT #8793 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Takes can opener from Frank, so he can't open any more cans of worms.
Frankenbuddha - May 16, 2008 5:52:20 am PDT #8794 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Takes can opener from Frank, so he can't open any more cans of worms.
Hee. My nickname at work is the can opener, because I'm always finding problems within problems within problems.
Stephanie - May 16, 2008 5:55:03 am PDT #8795 of 10289
Trust my rage
well, my only point is that we seem to be trying to make it harder to create threads and requiring more agreement does that, ragrdless of how many people care enough to vote.
( of course, I wasn't here yet for the original voting debacle so I haven't seen inside the can yet.)
Jesse - May 16, 2008 6:02:41 am PDT #8796 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
So if we pegged it as high as 72 and eliminated No Preference, then only three of the last seven threads would've been enacted.
Not all of those votes were about opening threads. Of the last five(I don't have time to go back and really do this right now), three were about opening threads (if you consider the votes to open Procedurals and Comedy separately, even though they were on the same ballot), one was about closing a thread, and one was about supporting the WGA strike.
Gaming thread: 83 total; 76 Y/N
Strike support: 65 total; 64 Y/N
Close Firefly thread: 73 total; no NP option
Open Procedurals: 76 total; 65 Y/N
Open Comedy: 76 total; 61 Y/N