Monty: Whaddya mean she ain't my wife? Mal: She ain't your wife... cause she's married to me.

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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Trudy Booth - Apr 21, 2008 8:37:08 am PDT #8730 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What if we get billytea to promise to stop by Bitches once a day?

It's just a what-if in an example sort of way.

You're sweet, Trudy. Thanks. (::kermit waves back ::) I'm repeating myself, but having a Music thread doesn't keep me out of Natter; the sheer volume of posts keeps me out.

Well, yes and no... if there were no music thread you might well suck/search Natter and do music that way. Again, these are "ifs"

Billytea, Jon B are just people who came to the top of my head. There wasn't a whole lot of analysis, they're just examples and there are surely other people I've lost track of similarly.

I'd just like to say that I do think "I think XX would be really fun and make for some great conversations" should have some legitimacy as a rationale for thread creation, even though I do think the high hurdles are both necessary and good.

I think XX may have a legitimacy of its own too. I've just not seen it so far in this instance.

I'd love to get away from the "you only get a thread if you prove disruptive" idea - I think in the long run that may be as damaging as anything else.

I don't think of it as "disruptive" so much as a tipping-point with an interest level. "Gee, we basically have two threads going on here now, lets talk about splitting them". (This conversation, of course, can be good or very very very very veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bad)


Polter-Cow - Apr 21, 2008 8:40:27 am PDT #8731 of 10289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I had to make a choice way back when... Bitches or Natter? i chose Natter simply because it seemed to be the slower mover of the two.

Really? I always thought Natter was the faster one, which is why I've usually kept out of it, but I'm trying to get back into it since that's where all the action seems to be.

oh and i'm someone who lurked a bunch during the Firefly days, but didn't register until Wonderfalls. sometimes when the influx thing is brought up i feel a bit unwanted.

Thritto. Also, I didn't realize you first started posting because of Wonderfalls too.


Tamara - Apr 21, 2008 8:53:42 am PDT #8732 of 10289
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

sometimes when the influx thing is brought up i feel a bit unwanted

Absolutely this is me.


tiggy - Apr 21, 2008 8:56:51 am PDT #8733 of 10289
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Also, I didn't realize you first started posting because of Wonderfalls too.

yeah. up until that point i had the bronze/beta to discuss Joss and all those related's stuff, but around '04 is when the beta really started to die(for me!). most of the people i enjoyed talking with had stopped posting and were either mostly at lj or had simply fallen off the internet world.


Volans - Apr 21, 2008 9:24:29 am PDT #8734 of 10289
move out and draw fire

I had an evil thought about proposing a thread to discuss thread-creation issues.

You're already soaking in it!


Miracleman - Apr 21, 2008 9:27:12 am PDT #8735 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

You're already soaking in it!

But just think...to get the thread created, first we'd have to discuss thread creation ABOUT a thread discussing thread creation...

Oops. I think that other part of my brain I mentioned earlier isiasnd;nqlekn;3gi;qwerkn++++++klr=da9aidn;f


Jon B. - Apr 21, 2008 10:12:20 am PDT #8736 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The Press announcement is up:

Voting Has Begun!

And with that, I close this thread.


Liese S. - May 15, 2008 12:24:51 pm PDT #8737 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

This thread is now open to discuss the following proposal from Jesse:

Going back to an earlier part of the conversation, I'd like to formally propose eliminating "no preference" as a voting option and also revisit the minimum number of votes needed for a vote to count. I'm not going to propose a specific number at this point, because I could be persuaded that just getting rid of no preference serves the purpose, and I'm not sure what the right number would be anyway.


Jon B. - May 15, 2008 12:30:02 pm PDT #8738 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Reposted from Bureaublahblah:

I don't have the stats in front of me, but I have looked at them in the past. As I recall, there have always been enough Yes and No votes alone (i.e. 42 of 'em) to pass or fail every primary item on every ballot. The only time(s) there haven't been enough Yes and No votes (I forget if it's been more than once), it's been the secondary items like spoiler policy for the proposed thread.

So, I have (off the top of my head) two issues with eliminating NP as an option. 1) Like voter ID laws, it seems like a solution looking for a problem and 2) What do we do if enough people vote to create a thread, but not enough vote on things like its spoiler policy?


Laga - May 15, 2008 1:12:15 pm PDT #8739 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Am I correct in that the point of the proposal is to make it more difficult for new threads to be created?