I agree with Jilli.
I have a very different relationship with the board these days. And that's my choice but it's not the choice I wanted to need to make.
Oh, look at the pretties!
Kaylee ,'Shindig'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Cass - Apr 20, 2008 1:00:47 pm PDT #8581 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
NoiseDesign - Apr 20, 2008 1:07:02 pm PDT #8582 of 10289
Our wings are not tired
My relationship to the board changed years ago. I didn't like it but I wasn't in the majority so I just went with it.
Tamara - Apr 20, 2008 1:12:09 pm PDT #8583 of 10289
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
What is so different about the board now than compared to the golden age you all are talking about? I wasn't here then, and I'm curious to know what changed or was lost.
Connie Neil - Apr 20, 2008 1:14:33 pm PDT #8584 of 10289
brillig
What do people feel is the ideal setup of the board?
billytea - Apr 20, 2008 1:14:40 pm PDT #8585 of 10289
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
What is so different about the board now than compared to the golden age you all are talking about? I wasn't here then, and I'm curious to know what changed or was lost.
My opinion: Buffy/Angel were still on the air.
NoiseDesign - Apr 20, 2008 1:16:14 pm PDT #8586 of 10289
Our wings are not tired
For me it was boxed set systematically becoming the catchall thread for all the SF shows. I used to love to actually talk to people on the board about TV. Now I just don't. Bucket threads don't work for me. The love of bucket threads and cross pollination has cost me the ability to talk TV with some of my favorite folks. Yes I am bitter and sad about it and have been for years. I know that Boxed Set is the best thing ever for some. It is the worst thing ever for me. It totally altered my relationship to the board. So there you have it.
Cass - Apr 20, 2008 1:17:43 pm PDT #8587 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I didn't like it but I wasn't in the majority so I just went with it.And so did I.
It's why we have the process we do. We propose ideas, talk them over, vote and then abide by that. I like that we do this. I don't always fall on the winning side, but we talk and then the majority wins.
Part of that process, to me, is that when statements are made about the results of a previous decision and it's subjective effectiveness, that I disagree with, I want to make my opinion known.
Sean K - Apr 20, 2008 1:22:48 pm PDT #8588 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I don't have as much of a problem with the process as I do with why asking for new threads is unreasonable.
The process works (sort of), it's the reticence I understand very poorly.
Jon B. - Apr 20, 2008 1:35:51 pm PDT #8589 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
What is so different about the board now than compared to the golden age you all are talking about?
For me? The Golden Age was when it was on Table Talk and there were a lot fewer posts so that I actually had time to read all the posts in all the threads. As posting volume has increased, that's become impossible. It makes me sad, but I suppose it was inevitable and I deal with it.
Cass - Apr 20, 2008 1:38:10 pm PDT #8590 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I don't have as much of a problem with the process as I do with why asking for new threads is unreasonable.
The process works (sort of), it's the reticence I understand very poorly.That is the process, to me. Not that I would describe it as reticence but that is why we discuss proposals. The entire point is to talk about it, bring up questions, present answers, and then we vote.
I don't, honestly, see the need for a gaming thread so far. It seems like splintering the board in the hopes that it will lead to a dialog, instead of giving a conversation that exists a place of its own.
This splintering is not part of *my* ideal b.org. So, yeah, I am against this one. But, even though I will identify as antiproliferation, I have not voted against every thread proposed. There have been several times when the proposal made sense to me and I have voted in favor.
This is not one of those times for me.
Without people giving their views and asking questions, how is there any discussion in the process at all?