Now hold on, I'm gonna press the right pedal harder. I expect us to accelerate.

Anya ,'Showtime'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


megan walker - Apr 17, 2008 11:10:49 am PDT #8332 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Of course. But cooking made for a good comparative/contrasting subject example.

I meant my ragging on your non-cooking. Jesse (I think) is the one that brought it up as a thread.

For me, it comes down to the fact that I like knowing there is a specific and appropriate place to talk about something. Even if it is only once in awhile, I'd be much more likely to go to a separate thread for games than go to the comics* thread. Boxed Set is similar to me in that, for whatever reason, the thread doesn't really attract me, even though I'm into a couple of shows that got put there for discussion.

*I don't really know much about what is discussed there, but that's my impression of Other Media.


Sean K - Apr 17, 2008 11:11:38 am PDT #8333 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And CaBil hits the nail on the head. There are gamers who might not want to be spoiled about comics. But, I guess, tough luck to us, should the Gaming thread proposal fail.

I really don't think I need to point out that spoilage is a very touchy subject around here. Even though I just did point it out.


Sean K - Apr 17, 2008 11:13:19 am PDT #8334 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I meant my ragging on your non-cooking.

t dawn breaks over marble head

Hee. Yep, all good. Especially since I can cook now. (Those of you calling me a cooking guru are sweet and kind and generous, and also wrong. I'm still just a beginner, but it was sweet of you to say.)


Jesse - Apr 17, 2008 11:14:09 am PDT #8335 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesse (I think) is the one that brought it up as a thread.

True. And I don't actually want a cooking thread, but you would be AMAZED at how much I want to post about food compared to how much I do.


brenda m - Apr 17, 2008 11:14:18 am PDT #8336 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Would an Other Media thread that was explicity determined as the home for gaming talk work out okay? I'm getting the idea that some of the reticence to get game talk going there might be exactly because of the potential for thread overrunning, and the reluctance of people to do that when it's not really the thread for it. I think the dynamic might change a lot.

But - I don't know if that would be a good or bad thing. I'm subbed in that thread, but I've never really been active so I don't have a good feel for it. Would people feel overrun? Would it be a more exciting place?

It seems to me like the sustained comic discussion happens mostly around major release dates for three or four titles. I think if it were doable to try to keep a space for that with gaming talk filling in more of the breaks it might be workable. But I want to hear a lot more from people who are invested in the thread, since that's not me whichever way this all goes down.


brenda m - Apr 17, 2008 11:16:51 am PDT #8337 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yep, CaBil. That's what kept me out of that thread. And I'm reading comics again now! It's a fun thread! But I'm not caught up on Buffy S8.

FWIW, it's very heavily whitefont discussion. I stopped buying the books months ago and...I have no idea what's happened since. Maybe I'm just good at averting my eyes.

Why am I subbed to that thread again?


Wolfram - Apr 17, 2008 11:17:35 am PDT #8338 of 10289
Visilurking

Spoilage is what keeps me out of most mixed use threads, like Boxed Set, where I would otherwise enjoy BSG or Smallville discussion. So I can see why folks who are not up on S8 would forego game talk completely rather than share a thread with S8 discussion. I know that I would.


Miracleman - Apr 17, 2008 11:21:05 am PDT #8339 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

brenda, I think I have to reiterate what P-C, CaBil, Sean and myself have said about the Other Media in re: spoilage. Even if we take advantage of whatever lull may happen, we run a greater risk of comics spoilage than we might want.


brenda m - Apr 17, 2008 11:24:02 am PDT #8340 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Fair enough. The spoilage issue came up while I was typing my earlier, so I wasn't really thinking on thoses lines yet.


Connie Neil - Apr 17, 2008 11:24:23 am PDT #8341 of 10289
brillig

To start this, these are solely my views. I make no statement that my interpretation of the board reflects reality.

A cacaphony of competing conversations on multiple topics may seem convivial and party-like and social to some, but it is not conducive to focused discussion on a specific topic. At even the most jolly of cocktail parties, if people want to talk about something more deeply, they move to one side.

Having other people then grab the focused discussers and yank them back into the main stew of generality smacks to me of "You're having fun over there that's not including us! That's anti-social! You must mingle!"

The anti-proliferationists' successful sociability is not the responsibility of people who want to have a focused conversation on a separate topic. The argument "Having multiple threads ruins the boards" lacks the add-on of "for me." Every proliferationist squabble always strikes me as someone observing a party and seeing fun occurring somewhere else and somehow feeling threatened.

It feels like various parties on the board are not comfortable unless all the activity is taking place in one location. The tight-knit village is not coming back. Trying to force everyone into a couple of rooms will not recreate the early days. It's just going to result in elbows in each others' tea cups and a too-high static-to-content ratio.

I accept that my position is in direct opposition to other people's position. I also believe my position is every bit as valid as theirs.