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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Julie - Nov 10, 2007 4:25:15 pm PST #8099 of 10289

Thanks Allyson.

A vague disclaimer yada yada friends cakes. Have fun!


Liese S. - Nov 10, 2007 5:27:48 pm PST #8100 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'm on the road at the moment, and therefore appreciate our respect for the established voting process, which will allow me to participate. I will, of course, vote in favor, but I really am glad we're going with the existing process, as Entlike as that makes us feel. Our support will still be appreciated in a week.


Jon B. - Nov 10, 2007 8:36:45 pm PST #8101 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So, when are we voting?

Tuesday noonish through Friday noonish.


Wolfram - Nov 11, 2007 5:14:21 am PST #8102 of 10289
Visilurking

At some point I'd like to make a proposal that we have a procedure for shortening our voting period in certain circumstances. I'm not kidding. I respect the process immensely - hell, I blew a ton of social capital on it back in the day - but it was supposed to be a means to an end. I have seen absolute total unanimity on support for the writers on this board. A real consensus - not even a bullshit one. Why does it have to take a week to do something we all agree that we want to do?


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2007 8:03:18 am PST #8103 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why does it have to take a week to do something we all agree that we want to do?

Because I'd like to be sure it's something we all agree we want to do. The voting procedure was put in place because it often seemed we all wanted to do something.

Even if the voting is 100% pro support, I still think affording dissent time to speak up is important in every decision we think is important.


Dana - Nov 11, 2007 8:06:21 am PST #8104 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Also, not everyone checks the board every day. I consider that shocking, and I will not admit how often I check the board, but the reason we have a long discussion period is to allow people to weigh in, even if they only check the board every few days.


Pix - Nov 11, 2007 8:19:55 am PST #8105 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Yeah, as much as I want our support to be timely, the idea of circumventing the voting process makes my skin crawl. There have been times when we've bullshit consensed about things to take action earlier, but once we get to a voting stage, I think we need to follow our own rules. Opportunity for every voice to be heard, and all.


megan walker - Nov 11, 2007 9:34:49 am PST #8106 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Because I'd like to be sure it's something we all agree we want to do. The voting procedure was put in place because it often seemed we all wanted to do something.

Even if the voting is 100% pro support, I still think affording dissent time to speak up is important in every decision we think is important.

Very much this.

Also, why is this an issue of timeliness? There are plenty of other ways to show your support now (that have been linked elsewhere). If the strike is over soon, no harm no foul. If it's for the long haul, taking the time to follow our procedures is not going to make much difference.

From past experience, support strikers is like supporting people in grief, it's easy to be there at the beginning, it's sticking around that really counts.


Cass - Nov 11, 2007 10:21:59 am PST #8107 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Because I'd like to be sure it's something we all agree we want to do. The voting procedure was put in place because it often seemed we all wanted to do something.
I very much agree with this.

We came up with our processes to determine a set discussion time, then a set voting time and we abide by what those votes decide.

Just because one proposal seems as if it will easily pass and we can skip one of those steps, I feel better knowing that our procedures are in place. Most discussions brought up for a vote here are anything but clear and I don't like the idea of a precedent of ignoring those steps and rules.


Laga - Nov 11, 2007 10:26:43 am PST #8108 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

at first I was very in favor of posting a logo before the vote. Now I understand where the wait-and-vote-ers are coming from and I'd prefer to abide by the voting process as well.