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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Allyson - Oct 26, 2007 8:28:03 am PDT #7896 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I would selfishly like the Firefly thread to stay open so I don't have to read about it in Boxed Set or Minearverse.

Hee. We have to keep the terrorists browncoats over there, or they'll follow us home! /bushism


bon bon - Oct 26, 2007 8:31:32 am PDT #7897 of 10289
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Actually, the header is very relevant. I suspect any attempt to include VM, BSG, SV or any other show in the header would have met with strong opposition. Firefly's inclusion just seemed, well, right. Which supports the notion that the Firefly thread has, to some limited extent, a cultural entitlement that almost every other thread lacks.

Obviously, the distinction is that it was a Joss Whedon show, while the others aren't. That is why it's in the header. I have no idea what cultural entitlement entails, but what is better about the Firefly thread than, say, threads that were created at TT? Threads dating from WX? Threads that garner a lot of posts? Just because a show was created by Joss, we have to keep a tombstone? In sum, I don't buy sentimentality as a reason for keeping something useless around.


Kat - Oct 26, 2007 8:38:44 am PDT #7898 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Firefly's inclusion just seemed, well, right.

Perhaps right because it was there when you joined. Timing matters.

But, blissfully, I don't care one way or another. But, and I'd like to point this out very very strongly. THIS level of angst and navelgazing and agitation for keeping a thread is why I personally hate opening new threads. Because they are nigh impossible to close because everyone wants their personal sandbox to be sacrosanct.


Dana - Oct 26, 2007 8:46:51 am PDT #7899 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Because they are nigh impossible to close because everyone wants their personal sandbox to be sacrosanct.

How is that different from "I don't want discussion about *that* topic in *my* thread"?

If we're going to value something, I'd rather value people's love for a topic than their hate for it.


Steph L. - Oct 26, 2007 8:52:00 am PDT #7900 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Just because a show was created by Joss, we have to keep a tombstone?

bon, you say exactly what I'm thinking, but so much more articulately.


amych - Oct 26, 2007 9:12:26 am PDT #7901 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm in the Jesse corner -- I've been having a little trouble articulating why, but it makes a huge difference to me that we're talking about not opening a new thread, and not about taking some affirmative action to close one. I'd be very much against closing down the thread if it weren't coming to its time, but it seems like the right moment to let it go its way.

I loved Firefly like I've loved few other shows. I never once felt like having a thread here was a bad fit. But opening a new thread just in case something happens... maybe someday? That's, like, Miss Havisham levels of creepy and morbid and wrong.

Let the thread die a natural and dignified death. The subject is still welcome, but the end of the thread seems not just like board housekeeping, but like a fitting way for it to go out.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2007 9:17:08 am PDT #7902 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thank you, amych. Those were the words I couldn't find.


Pix - Oct 26, 2007 9:34:11 am PDT #7903 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I really don't have a horse in this race, but when I said "let it die," I didn't realize that a handful of people are still actively posting, slowly or not. I imagine that it must feel very unfair to those who are still posting in thread to hear it called dead or useless. I don't see why it hurts to leave it open. I certainly sympathize with their desire to not get lost in the shuffle.


Pix - Oct 26, 2007 9:38:18 am PDT #7904 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Coffee: if we do decide to open the next thread, it might be fun to start with a group rewatch of the show or movie. That would give the thread a nice jump start and get it past the initial low numbers so it doesn't feel so sad to others.


BigDuluth - Oct 26, 2007 9:51:20 am PDT #7905 of 10289
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

That would give the thread a nice jump start and get it past the initial low numbers so it doesn't feel so sad to others.

I like this idea.