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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2007 6:41:57 pm PDT #7847 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hi, I exist. How many more are there?

I thought you came because of the book...

What I meant was that we're rarely going to pop to the top of anyone's hunting for Firefly list. There are plenty of places that come to mind before us.

I dunno. I love the show more than most, but I don't think it is of sufficient mass to maintain a thread anymore.

Dunno what it would hurt.

Oh, said in such innocence...


libkitty - Oct 25, 2007 6:43:30 pm PDT #7848 of 10289
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

{{BigDuluth}}

Dunno what it would hurt.

I've been through a few kerfuffles here, and frankly, I "dunno what it would hurt either." Although, I do get your point, ita.


BigDuluth - Oct 25, 2007 7:07:49 pm PDT #7849 of 10289
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

I did come because of the book. And writing aside (please don't think I'm down-playing it), considering what's come from it, it's one of the better ones I've bought all year. But like I said I went Firefly to Buffy. I love Buffy, great show, but I'm a hardcore Firefly fanboy. It'd mean a lot to me to keep it.


Liese S. - Oct 25, 2007 7:14:29 pm PDT #7850 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I also want to express that a lot of the "we should close it" discussion is not coming from people who don't like the show, but from people who adored the show.


bon bon - Oct 25, 2007 7:17:07 pm PDT #7851 of 10289
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm a hardcore Firefly fanboy. It'd mean a lot to me to keep it.

Why?

ETA: why would it mean a lot to you to keep the thread? It's a thread, not the show. Closing the thread shouldn't affect your love of the show.


omnis_audis - Oct 25, 2007 7:35:53 pm PDT #7852 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I think, for me, and maybe some of the other new(er) folk, an explanation of is there a reason to close a thread? System resources? Some server cost? Excessive Stompie time to monitor and fix problems? If the thread was completely dead with nobody standing up to say "no!", I could understand the closing of a thread. But it seems there are a bunch of folk screaming NO!! and a handful of people saying "it doesn't matter to me, I guess it makes sense to close it".

I ask this, not to be a jerk in an attempt at keeping Firefly open, but out of ignorance of what it takes to run the place. I honestly have no clue what it takes.


BigDuluth - Oct 25, 2007 7:50:06 pm PDT #7853 of 10289
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

It would mean a lot not because of any said status of my love of a show. I just don't think everybody's done with it yet. And as I said previously

C'mon, putting it elsewhere means it's just that much more scrolling through whitefonts about shows I dont' have time for in my "don't yet own a TIVO" existence

...or for ones I didn't know about or have time to watch at the time. If there's some sort of ritualistic buffista disclaimer of "I'm not calling anyone a bun tyen-shung duh ee-dway-ro. We're all nice people but this is just how I feel" insert it here.


omnis_audis - Oct 25, 2007 8:12:37 pm PDT #7854 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

... "I'm not calling anyone a bun tyen-shung duh ee-dway-ro. ...
Ooo Big Duluth, MiracleMan would give you a plot point or two for that. Wait, we're not playing Serenity RPG here. Sorry.


Burrell - Oct 25, 2007 8:52:10 pm PDT #7855 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

eh. Truth be told, my main reason to close the thread is that I no longer use it. But I am loathe to close a thread if those who are using it currently want to keep it open, even if I don't really see the need.


DCJensen - Oct 25, 2007 9:14:25 pm PDT #7856 of 10289
All is well that ends in pizza.

Posting what I said earlier in Bureaucracy and Firefly, plus using the option to revise and extend my remarks.

I would prefer a dedicated Firefly thread. There was something special to the show and it's always nice to have a place to discuss our latest conversions.

For instance, nearly everyone at our helpdesk has now seen Firefly. It's passing from tech to tech like a virus. Eighteen months ago only two of us had seen it.

Plus? it's beloved enough to have quotes in our rotation, why not let us post in spurts?

I don't think Minearverse is the proper place. If we must kill the thread, I would suggest including it in Boxed Set, as Minearverse is mostly for his live projects.

Also, Boxed Set is really our home for the Sci-fi-type genre shows.

I guess I see the Firefly thread as a place that for a few posts a week I get to hear a little bit about something that was so short lived, but deserved better.

Having people pop in with the latest links, stories and conversions can make my day.

The show may have stopped, but it gives me comfort to hear little bits of info here and there. Most of us do not have the time nor the inclination to spend hours in the remaining full fledged Firefly bastions.

Eventually those two will be but memories.

Firefly was the little show that could. Despite bad ratings and poor network support, it is still gaining viewers and converts and selling DVDs. Not bad for less than 20 hours of show, including movie.

The fact that nearly five years off the air we are still debating whether to close the thread is a testament to the longevity of the subject.