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Ooo Big Duluth, MiracleMan would give you a plot point or two for that. Wait, we're not playing Serenity RPG here. Sorry.

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eh. Truth be told, my main reason to close the thread is that I no longer use it. But I am loathe to close a thread if those who are using it currently want to keep it open, even if I don't really see the need.

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Posting what I said earlier in Bureaucracy and Firefly, plus using the option to revise and extend my remarks.

I would prefer a dedicated Firefly thread. There was something special to the show and it's always nice to have a place to discuss our latest conversions.

For instance, nearly everyone at our helpdesk has now seen Firefly. It's passing from tech to tech like a virus. Eighteen months ago only two of us had seen it.

Plus? it's beloved enough to have quotes in our rotation, why not let us post in spurts?

I don't think Minearverse is the proper place. If we must kill the thread, I would suggest including it in Boxed Set, as Minearverse is mostly for his live projects.

Also, Boxed Set is really our home for the Sci-fi-type genre shows.

I guess I see the Firefly thread as a place that for a few posts a week I get to hear a little bit about something that was so short lived, but deserved better.

Having people pop in with the latest links, stories and conversions can make my day.

The show may have stopped, but it gives me comfort to hear little bits of info here and there. Most of us do not have the time nor the inclination to spend hours in the remaining full fledged Firefly bastions.

Eventually those two will be but memories.

Firefly was the little show that could. Despite bad ratings and poor network support, it is still gaining viewers and converts and selling DVDs. Not bad for less than 20 hours of show, including movie.

The fact that nearly five years off the air we are still debating whether to close the thread is a testament to the longevity of the subject.

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For those of us who, for varying periods, don't have time to scan high-traffic threads for news of folks we care about, let alone defunct but beloved shows, we'd need a Nilly for Firefly mentions. Letting the thread go means those of us who are thousands of posts--and probably an entire thread at one time or another--behind in Natter, Minearverse, and/or Boxed Set won't ever see the few scattered comments. Thus we who miss it won't be part of that conversation. Which is a little bit tragic.

But only a little.

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This whole conversation reminds me a lot of the inverse of the SPN thread discussion - instead of trying to move conversation out of a thread, we are trying to move it into a thread.

Of course, it's also a lot like the Veronica Mars thread discussion.

Truthfully, the Firefly thread existing doens't inconvenience me at all - it's there but I rarely use it. OTOH, given it's volume, it does seem to be a good candidate for elimination, particularly if trying to curb our thread proliferation tendencies.

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I'm coming 'round to agreeing with Daniel, Beverly, and BigDuluth. I still want to know anything of note that happens re Firefly, but I don't and won't frequent anyplace that's solely Firefly (that isn't here, I mean) - I don't have time, and I don't like the inevitable kerfuffles. Firefly talk could be moved to Boxed Set or Minearverse, but it's always going to be infrequent. I don't have time to sift through lots of messages in other threads just in case somebody mentions Firefly. Anyone who doesn't go in those threads will never see it. Which will pretty much ensure that any Firefly conversation that might have happened in its own thread will quickly die anywhere else.

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I want to see the Firefly thread stay open. Sure I'm biased because I was in the 12/02 tvguide-linking-firefly-wave of buffistas, but also for more fundamental reasons. The three threads that have always defined this board for me were Buffy, Angel and Firefly. (See homepage slug.) Buffy/Angel thread will never close - because for a lot of us the shows and the buffyverse continue to survive. I think the same thing is true for Firefly - sequel or no, comics or no. And I don't mean that there will always be fans for Firefly, because there will always be fans for lots of shows that have been off the air for years. I mean that this board, in particular, has been deeply, deeply submerged in Firefly culture from its (Firefly's) inception. Whether you loved, hated, or indifferented the show - this board lived and breathed it for a long time. Allyson's tour of Serenity. Nilly's reviews. Joss and Tim's postings about the show. The FF quotes in the generator. I'm sure others can give scores of examples.

Do we need to close the Firefly thread? Not really. I could see that some might argue it sets a bad precedent to leave idle threads open. But I think Firefly has a sort of entitlement here that no other thread can claim. So next year when someone says let's close the BSG thread, it wouldn't be too effective to counter with - but Firefly is still open - because it's not really the same thing at all.

I wish someone would say this better. But I really don't want Firefly to close, and I don't see any compelling reason that it should.

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I am loathe to vote for a thread closing where people using it still want it open. And I like to idea of it staying open (my minearverse suggestion having been a snarky rejoinder to Allyson's "Kill it!"), though I'm not sure I'd have anything to say in there again.

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Wolfram, I think you put it great. I will second it.

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It's odd, but I think that closing the Firefly thread is something I want to do as a huge fan of the show. Keeping it open just feels weird.

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