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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


esse - Aug 23, 2007 3:15:04 pm PDT #7756 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Yes, but it's the same argument backwards. For those of us who don't use Natter, keeping the conversation--even if it's just OMG that was awesome--in Natter effectively excludes us. I don't personally care if it's discussed in both places, but I'd at least want a chance to talk about.


Connie Neil - Aug 23, 2007 3:23:40 pm PDT #7757 of 10289
brillig

For those of us who don't use Natter, keeping the conversation--even if it's just OMG that was awesome--in Natter effectively excludes us.

You can say, "Well, talk more about the show in Natter!" all you want, but I think experience shows that focused talk about a subject with a select group is not effective in Natter. Especially if something big comes up, like someone's family member is hurt and they need comfort. I am not going to feel comfortable trying to talk about the latest twist on Bones' Dad and Angela and Hodgins' relationship inbetween the real life drama that rightfully occurs in Natter. It's gauche for us and rude for the people who are in Natter trying to deal with reality.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2007 4:12:01 pm PDT #7758 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's gauche for us and rude for the people who are in Natter trying to deal with reality.

As someone who's forever airing her dirty laundry in natter. Gauche? Rude? To talk about things other than whatever my latest headache feels like?

I should certainly hope not, whether the distraction is politics or baseball or Britney Spears's latest meltdown.

It's Natter.


Fred Pete - Aug 23, 2007 4:51:21 pm PDT #7759 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'd prefer a general Comedy thread devoted to all things intended to make people laugh. If it turns into a de facto Office thread, we can propose to convert it at the appropriate time.

People can certainly discuss shows in Natter. The thread would be devoted to comedy, not the exclusive home of things funny.


Kate P. - Aug 23, 2007 5:59:35 pm PDT #7760 of 10289
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I'm a HIMYM watcher, and I'd be content with it in Natter. While some episodes were classic and an excellent source for ongoing slang acquisition and creation, I didn't really need sustained discussion about it other than the occasional OMG Superbowl Episode! natter.

Yes, but it's the same argument backwards. For those of us who don't use Natter, keeping the conversation--even if it's just OMG that was awesome--in Natter effectively excludes us. I don't personally care if it's discussed in both places, but I'd at least want a chance to talk about.

I agree with SA here, but I also see your point, Liese, and I wouldn't want to take away that use of Natter for you. I guess I don't really get why the people who want to make a couple of watch&post comments on HIMYM (or whatever) in Natter can't still do so, even if there's the potential for slightly more focused discussion in the Comedy thread.


Liese S. - Aug 23, 2007 8:00:57 pm PDT #7761 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I'm pretty much not saying other people should use things the way I do. Upthread, megan had asked how HIMYM viewers felt about it (an Office thread) and I was expressing that I personally didn't have a problem with HIMYM in Natter.

I said it specifically about HIMYM because as to connie's point, HIMYM doesn't generate sustained discussion anyway, in the way that Bones or something else might.

Regarding the rest of what connie was saying, I agree with ita in that we shouldn't feel hesitant to talk about whatever, whenever in natter. I'm fairly sure I've talked over ita's migraines at some point, and I'm sure I've been talked over, too, and it's all fine. We can be both supportive and totally flippant, and I think that's healthy for our chatter.


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 5:06:39 am PDT #7762 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I agree with ita in that we shouldn't feel hesitant to talk about whatever, whenever in natter.

yes, this.


Connie Neil - Aug 24, 2007 7:39:51 am PDT #7763 of 10289
brillig

I agree with ita in that we shouldn't feel hesitant to talk about whatever, whenever in natter.

So no one thinks the following hypothetical exchange isn't . . . off?

"My dearest cousin died in a car crash tonight."

"Wow, Boreanaz has been working out! Though I could hardly pay attention with what they're doing to poor Booth."

You really think that atmosphere is going to be conducive to a focused discussion of the plot developments of Bones?


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 7:46:00 am PDT #7764 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

So no one thinks the following hypothetical exchange isn't . . . off?

Let's not be ridiculous. I think that most everyone has the basic tact to not discuss television in the face of someone's tragedy. I believe that the point that ita was making was that just because there may be a dedicated thread to a show, it does not mean that it cannot be discussed elsewhere.

In the case of your hypothetical exchange, there was probably near simultaneous posting and the second poster might apologize later, but the thread would presumably not continue discussing DB after hearing the bad news.


§ ita § - Aug 24, 2007 7:48:38 am PDT #7765 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So no one thinks the following hypothetical exchange isn't . . . off?

To me that's not an exchange, so the offness is moot. It is merely consecutive posting. If I wanted to dominate the room with my grieving then Natter is the wrong place for me to try and do it. It is, after all, Natter. Topics cross, and I don't blame anyone for it.