You mean that you don't want which comedies in this thread? There really are only a couple that get any sort of conversation at all: HIMYM and the Office. Possibly some of the Fox cartoons. And TDS and the Colbert Report. That's maybe 6 or 7 things.

I still think that a thread just for The Office might be better than a general comedy thread because some people have already expressed an interest in keeping TDS and TCR in Natter and I don't remember particularly sustained conversation about HIMYM in the Experimental Comedy thread. Am I misremembering? How do other HIMYM watchers feel?

I haven't said much, but I think maybe it isn't so much the size of the Bucket as actually defining the specific shows that go in there, so people are spoiler safe.

I haven't said much, but I think maybe it isn't so much the size of the Bucket as actually defining the specific shows that go in there, so people are spoiler safe.

This, and mostly...

But I don't know that it will generate a lot of discussion here, is the thing. There's a difference between what could be discussed and what will be discussed. Part of the problem, though, is that people who are avoiding spoilage won't know what's actually going on in there, only what the potential is.

This. What if the handful of people who do care about the shows that aren't going to be big topics of discussion (L&O or whatever) are afraid to come into the thread and talk about Bones and House because they don't want to get spoiled for the little things that actually never end up being discussed there.

If you make the bucket thread for the three or 4 most popular procedurals, people will be pretty sure those shows are being discussed and can better judge when they want to enter the thread.

As for my "catch-all" comment about comedies, someone (Fred Pete, maybe) mentioned making the thread a catch all for all shows funny. I don't necessarily want a thread only for The Office, but I think a limited bucket would work better than a catch-all for all sorts of reasons, spoiler aversion included.

Okay, I understand. I think I'd be able to accept Kristen's list above. I was definitely proposing a Procedurals bucket thread, and if those are the shows that fit the description, then that's a ready definition. However, I think it's worth noting that the likelihood of active, or even present, discussion of all those shows doesn't seem particularly likely to me. But if you need a defining set of shows for the thread, her list seems to fill that for me.

Regarding The Office, if someone wants to propose a thread for it, I would enthusiastically support it. I'd love to have a thread devoted to The Office. But should no one feel inclined, I think the Comedy thread will support the discussion just fine either way.

And regarding addressing the concerns about what will be discussed in a thread for the Comedy thread, would it be worth it to add a sub-question to the "Do you want a Comedy thread" question asking "If the Comedy thread passes, should this thread be limited to Network Teleivion, or should it be open to comedy on all television channels?"

I'd be down with the idea of limiting the shows to be discussed in the Comedy thread to, say, The Office, 30 Rock, and HIMYM, or some similar grouping. I expect The Office will take up most of the discussion, but I think there are a few other comedy shows that would generate some discussion as well.

Pretty much, though, anywhere I can talk about The Office will make me happy.

Regarding The Office, if someone wants to propose a thread for it, I would enthusiastically support it. I'd love to have a thread devoted to The Office. But should no one feel inclined, I think the Comedy thread will support the discussion just fine either way.

Actually I brought up the idea of a separate thread for The Office because I don't watch it, and would rather see the brief mentions of HIMYM and TDS in Natter than wade through a mostly- Office comedy thread, but it doesn't seem right for me to propose a thread for a show I don't watch. I was just interested what other HIMYM, or for that matter 30 Rock or My Name is Earl, watchers thought about it.

FWIW the experimental comedy thread had no limits and drew about a dozen posts a day while open. I would expect a thread dedicated to fewer shows to draw even less traffic.

I'd note also, and that reminds me I should post the final tally when I get home, that other than Bones and House to a certain degree, very few of the procedural type shows elicited a lot of concern over spoilage.

My expectation for this thread will be a bunch of discussion of the two former, probably fairly intertwined, with some periodic segues into Numbers, Medium, and Criminal Minds. I'ma guess that one of another of the new shows will also be in each discussion level, and then some "dude, CSI was intense tonight", "so-and-so rocked on NCIS" type posts every so often on most of the rest.

Does that sync up with what others are seeing/expecting, and does that sound like a good or bad thing? I'd vote for what I just described over dedicated threads for any of them, because I think it'll need at least that much to keep things rolling along.

FWIW the experimental comedy thread had no limits and drew about a dozen posts a day while open. I would expect a thread dedicated to fewer shows to draw even less traffic.

But I'm not sure that would be true if it was clearly an "Office" thread. Leaving Natter led to a significant increase in conversation about The Office and I think the idea that there will be a place to squee about it is what is driving the push for a comedy thread. Of course, this is only my impression, but, personally, I would be inclined to vote against a generic comedy thread but for an Office thread just because I think that a dedicated thread makes sense based on what happened with the experimental one. Despite my lack of interest in the show, I thought it was great to see the delight that others took in discussing it.

I'd be okay with an Office thread, I think. I mean, I think a comedy thread would be a defacto Office thread anyway, but I'd like to see what an acutal dedicated thread would develop into.