Riley: Maybe I should just let you rest. Buffy: You sure? I bet if you just lay down with me- Riley: Nothing you are about to say will lead to rest.

'Lessons'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2007 10:50:56 am PDT #7619 of 10289
brillig

I don't have a problem with this if connie agrees with it, but I really don't see why anyone thinks the arguments will be any different in 2 weeks.

I was in the middle of a post when my home router crashed, stupid thing.

I reluctantly agree to a delay until Aug. 11 before picking up on this, but I'm not sure anything substantive is going to be settled either. I won't change my mind about the benefits of having a separate Network Drama thread, and I don't know that anyone who thinks that having bucket threads is a death blow to the ambience of the boards is going to change their minds.

I like this idea (I did propose it) and I don't think this board is so delicate that having these threads is going to damage things irretrievably. So I'm not going to let it go.

Someone asked about why I'm here. That's irrelelvant. I love a great many of the people here--the rest of you I don't know well enough to impose strong feelings on yet :)--and as long as those people are here I'll find a way to talk to you.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2007 11:02:34 am PDT #7620 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the break was so people would change their minds. Just a breather so moods wouldn't be as raw. Anything constructive the decision would bring about will be better if people aren't still stinging about the last similar-but-not-similar vote.


esse - Jul 28, 2007 11:05:15 am PDT #7621 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

ita said it very well, so I shall just point upwards. Shall we do the poll? Or have an informal agreement to table until Labour Day?


Dana - Jul 28, 2007 11:08:26 am PDT #7622 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Has there been this much sturm&drang before when threads spin off?

It was really a different situation at Table Talk, because it wasn't solely our board, and there were a million threads. Occasionally some of the TT people looked at us strangely, but some of the threads were even in different folders, I think.


Sean K - Jul 28, 2007 11:37:33 am PDT #7623 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Shall we do the poll? Or have an informal agreement to table until Labour Day?

Well, connie picked a date on her own, and I'm willing to respect that date, though I also understand if I am alone in that.

I think the real thing is to have this Who Are We discussion that seems to have arrived one way or another, but the question then become "how, when and where will we have this discussion."

I think we should all step away from Discussing Things for a bit, just so everybody has a chance to Doblerize. After that, I don't know? Do we discuss here? In B'cracy? Do we create a thread to Discuss Ourselves (seems a little silly, but then where else would it happen?).

Regardless, thank you connie, for agreeing to set this proposal down for a little bit. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, and I'm sure it's not what you wanted to happen with your proposal, so thank you for making that hard choice.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 28, 2007 12:28:58 pm PDT #7624 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Definitely, thank you connie.

I think Bureau-blah-blah is defintely the place to have a "where do we go from here" discussion. It's pretty much it's raison d'etre, isn't it?


Zenkitty - Jul 28, 2007 12:43:15 pm PDT #7625 of 10289
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think the real thing is to have this Who Are We discussion that seems to have arrived one way or another, but the question then become "how, when and where will we have this discussion."

Yeah, that's actually what I meant by needing a poll taken. A "how do you want to do this thing with the tv watching" poll. To get a more concrete idea of what everyone does want.


Lee - Jul 28, 2007 3:15:57 pm PDT #7626 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Thank you Connie, for agreeing to this, and I think going with the date you picked is right and fitting, at least to me.

I don't think the break was so people would change their minds. Just a breather so moods wouldn't be as raw. Anything constructive the decision would bring about will be better if people aren't still stinging about the last similar-but-not-similar vote.

Like SA, I will just point upwards.


Connie Neil - Jul 28, 2007 4:50:35 pm PDT #7627 of 10289
brillig

defintely the place to have a "where do we go from here" discussion

Can there be singing?

Sorry, I always go to a OMWF place at the phrase "where do we go from here" anymore.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 28, 2007 5:05:35 pm PDT #7628 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sorry, I always go to a OMWF place at the phrase "where do we go from here" anymore

That's at least partly why I use that phrase when "future of the board" discussions come up. Call me a traditionalist.