Network Drama thread with no whitefont at all

Here we have a point to work from. How about Network Drama with 24 hour whitefont? It can certainly be an option to vote on.

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Voting is intended to give us the will of the majority, but until we get an idea of how the people as a whole feel, we may not be putting the "right" issues to the vote.

This is how I feel.

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Except for removing the issues that apparently keep some people from posting in Natter/Bitches who would if they weren't worried about getting spoiled.

To be clear, I've never worried about being spoiled in Natter or Bitches. Whitefont makes that a non-issue for me. I generally don't talk TV in those threads just because the conversation has moved on by the time I want to talk about it, but that's my issue, not the board's.

The only current thread that I don't go into because of worries about being spoiled is Boxed Set, and, as I've said, I accepted that that thread as it's configured isn't for me anyway. I wouldn't want to take Boxed Set away from those who love it; TV just isn't worth this level of contention to me.

It also means for people like ND and Kristin who don't want to be spoiled for other things they watch, they can avoid it.

That's the tougher bit, and I'm not sure the best way to handle. But I don't see overlapping Natter and Ded-Thread discussions as a bad thing, personally.

I appreciate that my voice is being heard, but it's so difficult to know how many people want what, and I'm wary about becoming a spokesperson for anyone else. I agree that single threads would be accessible to more people, but I also recognize that single-threads are a dealbreaker for others who I care about here.

Maybe it's just that I have other things on my mind, but I'm just not up for the level of discussion it would take to make substantial changes one way or the other right now. Yes, I'm being conflict-avoidant, which will doubtless frustrate ND, but...I guess I just agree with whomever it was who said that it would be nice to have a bit of a breather from this discussion so close on the heels of the SPN debate.

Not sure if any of that is helpful. Just throwing it out there since my name came up.

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Yeah, the timing is bad. The new season is coming up, so this was going to happen around now. I'm just sorry Supernatural spilled over when it did, but that was an organic development, I guess.

For that matter, I'm kind of sorry cable drama came up before network - again, start of new seasons dictated, or at least led - because I think it's contributing to the "new thread mania" feeling some are perceiving with one coming up after another.

Gah. I don't know. I liked the experimental thread. I like fast Natter. I do think there was more conversation, about more shows, with the separate thread. I also think the fear that OMG every show will get a thread - or even every show will be discussed in a thread - is way overblown.

As a "read new" user, I don't see a huge amount of splintering, because I flip from one to another. ymmv.

Frankly, I think the "foldering" on the main page is more splintering - when everything was on one page, I'd click on to the site and see "hey, lots of posts in [whatev], must be something going on" and check out threads I wasn't subbed to, for whatever reason. Now, tv/movie/media threads I'm not subbed to might as well not exist, mostly, for all they impinge on my consciousness.

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I think the "foldering" on the main page is more splintering

There are a lot of different ways to use the site. The foldering wouldn't further splinter Nutty's experience, for instance, since she never uses the first page.

Other people use the first page, but don't read past whatever their browser's fold is.

Some use subscriptions and the home pages, some read the whole page...it's a mixed lot.

Even when I'm Reading New, threads feel different to me. I miss the Supernatural energy in Boxed Set, even though I didn't read all of it (and am so not going to chase it to another thread). So even if threads pop up automatically for me, how I read and how I post is dictated by the feel I get off that particular thread.

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Even when I'm Reading New, threads feel different to me.

Yeah, I should clarify. It's not like Read New means all one thread. They feel different, for sure. And I'll post differently, depending. But I don't feel a disconnect, exactly.

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My inclination is to put the brakes on thread creation.

As a go-go pro proliferationist that's a shift for me.

Natter's not my main thread, but for the people who do use it that way, it does seem clear that the bleeding of volume they feared with show thread creation has happened.

There's a certain tipping point where the volume is not unlike blood volume. You need a certain level to maintain consciousness.

Then again, that's easy for me to say since I don't watch Grey's Anatomy. But I am used to seeing its whitefont in Natter (and scrolling past).

I'm still trying to think about how to structure a whitefont bucket thread that would accommodate people who were spoiler avoidant. But that's just another pressure bleed on Natter.

My inclination though is to not treat the Experimental threads as successful experiments that need to be permanently enshrined, but to Slow Down and see what the subdivisions do to the community before we create more.

I realize that the new season is coming in September(ish), but my gut is saying we could afford to let Network drama be in Natter for that long and just see how things have been changed.

Though I'm not as invested in Network Drama, I would like a Comedy thread (for HIMYM and The Office), and I would still advocate holding off.

I think we have already started one kind of experiment and we don't have any meaningful conclusions yet.

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Due South out of Bitches. (Possibly Smallville and Farscape too, I disremember.)

Smallville spun out of Bitches, Due South out of Smallville. Both at WX.

There's been a sort of sea change in the board culture since then, partly due to platform shift, partly in response to Buffy being off the air, and the real shift to Natter and Bitches as the true cores of the community, and I think splintering now has more of an adverse effect than it did then.

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Right.

I guess I'm a minority in that I prefer talking in the non-natter/non-Bitches threads.

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and the real shift to Natter and Bitches as the true cores of the community,

This kind of makes me think of London with its two central loci: City of London and Westminster.

eta: Randomly, I dig that The Millenium Wheel has already established itself as a focal London landmark.

It's a new Eiffel Tower thingie. It'll be that iconic for the next couple centuries. (Barring alien invasion.)

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