Well, look at you. All dressed up in big sister's clothes.

Faith ,'End of Days'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2007 3:46:50 pm PDT #7567 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the "foldering" on the main page is more splintering

There are a lot of different ways to use the site. The foldering wouldn't further splinter Nutty's experience, for instance, since she never uses the first page.

Other people use the first page, but don't read past whatever their browser's fold is.

Some use subscriptions and the home pages, some read the whole page...it's a mixed lot.

Even when I'm Reading New, threads feel different to me. I miss the Supernatural energy in Boxed Set, even though I didn't read all of it (and am so not going to chase it to another thread). So even if threads pop up automatically for me, how I read and how I post is dictated by the feel I get off that particular thread.


brenda m - Jul 27, 2007 3:49:49 pm PDT #7568 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Even when I'm Reading New, threads feel different to me.

Yeah, I should clarify. It's not like Read New means all one thread. They feel different, for sure. And I'll post differently, depending. But I don't feel a disconnect, exactly.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2007 5:58:34 pm PDT #7569 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My inclination is to put the brakes on thread creation.

As a go-go pro proliferationist that's a shift for me.

Natter's not my main thread, but for the people who do use it that way, it does seem clear that the bleeding of volume they feared with show thread creation has happened.

There's a certain tipping point where the volume is not unlike blood volume. You need a certain level to maintain consciousness.

Then again, that's easy for me to say since I don't watch Grey's Anatomy. But I am used to seeing its whitefont in Natter (and scrolling past).

I'm still trying to think about how to structure a whitefont bucket thread that would accommodate people who were spoiler avoidant. But that's just another pressure bleed on Natter.

My inclination though is to not treat the Experimental threads as successful experiments that need to be permanently enshrined, but to Slow Down and see what the subdivisions do to the community before we create more.

I realize that the new season is coming in September(ish), but my gut is saying we could afford to let Network drama be in Natter for that long and just see how things have been changed.

Though I'm not as invested in Network Drama, I would like a Comedy thread (for HIMYM and The Office), and I would still advocate holding off.

I think we have already started one kind of experiment and we don't have any meaningful conclusions yet.


P.M. Marc - Jul 27, 2007 6:15:33 pm PDT #7570 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Due South out of Bitches. (Possibly Smallville and Farscape too, I disremember.)

Smallville spun out of Bitches, Due South out of Smallville. Both at WX.

There's been a sort of sea change in the board culture since then, partly due to platform shift, partly in response to Buffy being off the air, and the real shift to Natter and Bitches as the true cores of the community, and I think splintering now has more of an adverse effect than it did then.


sumi - Jul 27, 2007 6:18:57 pm PDT #7571 of 10289
Art Crawl!!!

Right.

I guess I'm a minority in that I prefer talking in the non-natter/non-Bitches threads.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2007 6:23:39 pm PDT #7572 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and the real shift to Natter and Bitches as the true cores of the community,

This kind of makes me think of London with its two central loci: City of London and Westminster.

eta: Randomly, I dig that The Millenium Wheel has already established itself as a focal London landmark.

It's a new Eiffel Tower thingie. It'll be that iconic for the next couple centuries. (Barring alien invasion.)


Denise - Jul 27, 2007 6:39:38 pm PDT #7573 of 10289

I guess I'm a minority in that I prefer talking in the non-natter/non-Bitches threads.

Says who? The threads are all passing so far. I think the people that don't want the thread are being more vocal and the people that do want the thread just figure that they'll vote and see how the numbers shake out.


sumi - Jul 27, 2007 6:49:15 pm PDT #7574 of 10289
Art Crawl!!!

You mean the arguement for threads is more easily understood than the argument against threads?


Denise - Jul 27, 2007 8:07:41 pm PDT #7575 of 10289

You mean the arguement for threads is more easily understood than the argument against threads?

No, I just think that you feel like you're in the minority because the people against threads are being the most vocal right now. I think there are many who are for the thread that just aren't arguing the point but will vote for the thread. The majority of the votes for new tv threads have passed, so I don't think that you wanting the thread puts you in the minority.

Although there do seem to be more whitefont issues with this thread, so who knows how the vote will go.


SailAweigh - Jul 27, 2007 8:15:03 pm PDT #7576 of 10289
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

One of the reasons I like the bucket threads is that I actually interact with more people now. As Plei mentioned, Natter and Bitches have become the core community threads here. I know there are people who float effortless between the two, but I've never been one of those. I stick predominantly to Bitches with a few minor forays into Natter (more right now since I'm unemployed.) There are folks who stick strictly to Bitches and those who are only found in Natter. The bucket threads (and the individual show threads) make it possible for me to talk to and interact with more people than I do with just Bitches. I can see where the folks who are primarily Natterites would feel like they were losing something with more of the TV talk being shunted to new threads, but for me it's a net gain. I feel more a part of the community with the bucket threads than when more of the TV is in Natter.