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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 9:15:36 am PDT #739 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks, Jon.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 9:33:06 am PDT #740 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Still against 24 hours, and I think that tying the letter's language to the proposal will weight it down -- it shouldn't be hard to clear up, and probably doesn't even need a vote.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 9:34:10 am PDT #741 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

cereal: Any limitations on how soon after an "offence" a complaint can be lodged?


Lyra Jane - Apr 15, 2003 9:39:32 am PDT #742 of 10289
Up with the sun

Any limitations on how soon after an "offence" a complaint can be lodged?

I would say ... three days. That gives the problem a chance to be addressed in-thread, but doesn't allow things to drag on or butried bodies to be resurrected.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 9:48:02 am PDT #743 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

sorry, I left my repost of the proposal at 24 hours because that's not what I was concerned with, though I think people are leaning toward 48 now? though I'm not entirely sure of that.

I think the offending poster ought to have time to think about what happened and respond in thread and that it ought not be brought up more than 24 hours post occurrence -- though 48 might be more acceptable, if 48 hours is what we go with for the amount of time for the request for a warning be seconded.

However, what if the offending poster gets mad and stomp out and don't know that they've been requested to explain or apologize or whatever until they cool off and come back the next day or two to find it all sewn up in bureacracy?

I don't have an answer.

edited to make sense


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 9:48:47 am PDT #744 of 10289
Nobody

Any limitations on how soon after an "offence" a complaint can be lodged?

I would say ... three days. That gives the problem a chance to be addressed in-thread, but doesn't allow things to drag on or butried bodies to be resurrected.
(edited to add the above context)

I am against the how soon limit suggestion of 3 days. Look how much damage we did in one weekend, by not addressing the most recent complaint.

I am aginst a how soon limit in general. I don't think it's a matter of time, I think it's a matter of taking all the steps. I'd rather rely on Buffistas being reasonable people. If someone pisses me off and I call them on it, I can discern between my call being ignored and the person taking a breather, and/or actually out there living his life.


Jessica - Apr 15, 2003 9:52:58 am PDT #745 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Since official action isn't taken until a pattern of disruptive behavior has been observed, I don't think having a time limit for how long after an offense has occured is appropriate.


Lyra Jane - Apr 15, 2003 9:55:00 am PDT #746 of 10289
Up with the sun

Cindy, I think we're reading the question differently. I meant that the offended party should have to bring the issue up in bureaucracy within 3 days, otherwise the comment in question disappears into the vast mists of time. The process of initiating a warning could be started as soon as it seems necessary.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 9:59:11 am PDT #747 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think having a time limit for how long after an offense has occured is appropriate.

But that brings up the sort of stuff that happened in Kafka/Sartre, with that "remember how you pissed me off months ago?" thing.


Hil R. - Apr 15, 2003 10:01:39 am PDT #748 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'd rather not have a time limit for when things can be brought up. Since warnings are for a pattern of behavior, not for a particular incident, it seems like there isn't an exact time when something can be counted from.