Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
you would be tolerant of posting in an environment where there was also discussion of other, currently airing, material?I, personally, am.
But my spoiler issues are also dependent on which show it is, so I tiptoe where *my* needs necessitate. There are many times when I don't watch something live but, after it airs, it's up to me to watch where I go.
Decent analogy, but no one was asked to quiet down. I feel I need to make that point, lest someone feel again that their squeeing was a bad thing.
Well, we were asked to put in jump tags so that people didn't have to hear us.
But you weren't asked not to talk.
Once again, I see a negative spin. "so we can more easily skip very long discussions we aren't part of, without bothering you guys" does not have the same intent as "we don't want to hear you".
And I don't think I'm media-fannish enough to answer Liese's question, but anyway, I'm generally not spoiler-adverse.
But you weren't asked not to talk.
There's a difference between being asked to talk more quietly and being asked not to talk--that may be a semantic disconnect here.
Well, we were asked to put in jump tags so that people didn't have to hear us.
Not that I asked for them, so I can't speak for whoever did of course, but the jump tags just make the thread easier for me to navigate regardless of how I feel about what's in between those tags.
I like SPN, not really a watcher, since I tivo CSI and i'm generally not home on Thursdays to watch it. I have enjoyed the W&Ps of a rerun that was airing this summer, but for me, the issue is really the W&P of a DVD in a general thread, because I can't participate.
But, I DEFINITELY don't want SPNers to think that they can't squee and flail, regardless of what happens here. Hell, I might have to start watching just so I can encourage people, because I feel as though people will feel awkward no matter what happens and that is the last thing I think that anyone wants
But, in this vein,
"Hey, can't you people quiet down or take it outside?"
Decent analogy, but no one was asked to quiet down. I feel I need to make that point, lest someone feel again that their squeeing was a bad thing.
But even so, if someone does say that, should that really be translated as meaning you're not welcome at the party anymore?
I have a suggestion:
How about keeping SPN in Boxed Set, and a new rule limiting W&P to concurrent posting with the airing of the show. This would reduce the number of SPN posts until such time as the show begins airing, when we can all W&P or watch something else.
of course, this proposal may seem useless to other people, because it addresses my theory, which is that it seems to me that DVD W&Ps are the reason for the volume of SPN posts as opposed to other shows on hiatus, and why SPN seems so prevalent in Boxed Set*. I think that once the fall season starts, it will be moot. I mean, this never came up until summer.
How about keeping SPN in Boxed Set, and a new rule limiting W&P to concurrent posting with the airing of the show.
Speaking as someone who actually does find the rerun W&Ps irritating, I wouldn't feel comfortable with this. As it stands right now, Boxed Set is the proper place for SPN discussion, and if that discussion takes a form that I find irritating, well, that's my problem; someday, the wheel will turn, and the thread will turn into a place that I find joyous and someone else is irritated by. Saying "hey, there's kind of a lot of SPN talk in here and I feel drowned out, maybe there could be an SPN thread?" is one thing, but "you're welcome here so long as you continue to Follow the Rules" icks me out.
But, I DEFINITELY don't want SPNers to think that they can't squee and flail, regardless of what happens here.
Seconding this, whatever happens.
Saying "hey, there's kind of a lot of SPN talk in here and I feel drowned out, maybe there could be an SPN thread?" is one thing, but "you're welcome here so long as you continue to Follow the Rules" icks me out.Vortex, I agree with Katie. I don't want to see the SPN discussion nannied like that. I think SPN needs to be free in Boxed Set, or free in a dedicated thread.
This was never (or never should have been) about controlling the SPN talk. It was (or should have been) about determining whether or not SPN had outgrown Boxed Set. There are already hurt feelings, understandably, because people feel criticized for using the thread as intended and well within the rules, and other people feel hurt because they feel like it doesn't matter if their conversation is stifled. Making a special rule to restrict how SPNers can have fun seems even worse (and this isn't personal from me -- although I now count myself among SPNers, I don't W&P on DVD, and if I have live, it's been a rare occasion).
Vortex, I agree with Katie. I don't want to see the SPN discussion nannied like that. I think SPN needs to be free in Boxed Set, or free in a dedicated thread.
cool, I was trying to find a good compromise.
Making a special rule to restrict how SPNers can have fun seems even worse
I definitely didn't mean to do that. I thought that it would apply equally to all groups. But, now that I think about it, it's kind of like the legal concept that although a law may be neutral on its face, if it only affects a certain class of people, it is discriminatory.
You know, when we started this discussion, I would have been totally in favor of an SPN thread. Now, I want to keep the SPNers in Boxed Set and hold them and squeeze them and call them George.
Right. And buy them DVDs.
I mean, I am an SPNer, but I'm new enough to it (although not that new to Boxed Set any longer) that I still feel like it's "their" show and they just let me look at it, and I'm all sad that there's all this hurt with people I love, and my new best show, in my favorite B.org thread (er...Boxed Set, not lightbulbs).
I want to feed everyone warm chocolate pudding.