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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:38:02 am PDT #726 of 10289

In my head, if 10 super-newbies who hadn't ever been active posters suddenly ganged up on someone obviously undeserving of their wrath, they would be soundly ignored. Any procedures we come up with can be short-circuited in extreme situations.

Or...could we change "10 users" to "10 community members" in the proposal?


Jon B. - Apr 15, 2003 12:43:10 am PDT #727 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Uh huh. And we're going to define "community members" how? I don't want to exclude lurkers or newbies in general. I'm just saying that in extreme situations we can and have ignored procedures (think ChristianDollarStore).


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:44:43 am PDT #728 of 10289

I think I missed the ChristianDollarStore incident.


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2003 12:46:05 am PDT #729 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Err... someone checked their referral logs and spammed us.

IOW, I should never post links.

However, I don't think the CDS elimination was outside of process, but it's been a long time, and I seem to recall that outright trolls (the Obvious Kind) were to be sporked at will.


Jon B. - Apr 15, 2003 12:46:22 am PDT #730 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That's because their posts were deleted before you could say "BuffyNAngle4EVA!!!!!1!"


Jon B. - Apr 15, 2003 12:47:40 am PDT #731 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I seem to recall that outright trolls (the Obvious Kind) were to be sporked at will.

I may be remembering CDS wrong, but PMM's point is mine.


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2003 12:52:24 am PDT #732 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I may be remembering CDS wrong, but PMM's point is mine.

Ah, is late, am tired.

Sorry. Yeah. That.


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 7:19:54 am PDT #733 of 10289
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

So when does the 24 hour period start? After the first formal complaint in Bureaucracy? What if someone complains on Thanksgiving and gets only two co-sponsers that day, but the next day (or the day after) another 10 people read the offending post(s) and subsequent discussion and chime in on Bureaucracy within an hour of each other? Do they not count because the first official complaint came in a day or two earlier? Or is it 10 complaints within a 24 hour period regardless of whether a complaint was made days earlier and failed. The latter could get confusing, but the former could lead to folks strategizing when to lodge a complaint to insure maximum exposure.

My understanding of it was (correct me if I'm wrong) is that one would need ten complaints within 24 hours of the original official compaint, otherwise, it's null and void, too bad, so sad. We have no control over someone masterminding their complaint during high-traffic times. If the support is in the community, it's in the community, IMO.


justkim - Apr 15, 2003 7:30:21 am PDT #734 of 10289
Another social casualty...

I don't recall seeing this issue addressed, but it may be more appropriate for another proposal:

If a warning is issued, and the bad behavior continues, how long will it be allowed to continue before the poster is suspended?

ETA: I have seen good behavior to blank slate addressed, but not this alternate situation.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 7:45:48 am PDT #735 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The second warning-worthy behaviour triggers a suspension ... so I'm guessing it would be whenever ten more complaints roll in on the continuation.