Or Parsippany, as my fingers would really prefer to type?

Which is just a hop, skip, and a jump from Whippany.

Whippany. Whippany good.

I don't see a lot of crosstalk between SPN and other shows -- SPN takes over the thread completely during the W&Ps and ensuing analysis/squeeage and everything else sits back and waits for it to pass.

Ouch. Not picking on you, Jessica, it's just that... I know 200 or so posts about this is a lot to take in at once, and I know I have an emotional investment in SPN, but I still really feel like the SPN fans are regarded as an overgrown Lab puppy that needs to be whapped on the nose and sent to its new crate.

It's pretty clear that I'm overemotional and I need to step away for a bit, but I did want to state that that's how I feel about the discussion and I want to apologize to those who felt squeezed out by the flailing.

That is all.

Whippany

Though they did have to rename that popular teen magazine "Whippany Boy". Seems somebody got confused about what was supposed to be inside.

/ natter

I still really feel like the SPN fans are regarded as an overgrown Lab puppy that needs to be whapped on the nose and sent to its new crate.

Can you understand that some of the non-SPN fans feel like the rest of the puppies in that now-crowded old crate?

Can you understand that some of the non-SPN fans feel like the rest of the puppies in that now-crowded old crate?

Um, that's why I apologized. I feel bad that we made people feel squeezed.

Ya know, as a long time user of Boxed Set, I have to admit I don't get media-fannishness, and everytime anyone goes into paragraphs of explication all I can think is "I'm just here for the sci fi and fantasy...am I the only one?"

Even way back in the day, that's all I wanted from the thread, and it's all I want from it now, and I haven't found any reasons for spinning off shows (well, except for Lost, but I do hate it, so it's hardly rigourous or defensible) from it to be preferable to keeping them at home.

I think I understand!

There's a concert called Boxed Set with a bunch of different bands. Quirky British pop, folksy artsy stuff, and old school rock with a taste for pain.

So the last band has gotten a pretty decent following, they're a little more interactive and they are massively adored by their fans.

Fans of the other bands love it when fans of the OSRWATFP band seem to be enjoying it so much, and keep meaning to buy the new album, but just have too much other stuff going on.

However, at this latest concert, the cheers went on for a while because everyone was having such a good time listening to OSRWATFP, that some of the other bands on smaller stages were drowned out a bit.

So the organizers of the concert decided, "Hey OSRWATFP has gotten kinda huge! You could barely hear any of the other bands. Too bad we had to cut them off before the 4th encore. Maybe we should organize something where they headline! 'A Night with OSRWATFP' we'll call it!" "Brilliant!"

"Wait a minute!" says the fans of OSRWATFP. "We loved that concert gathering. We loved wandering from stage before our guys were up and listening to other bands. We are always on the lookout for another band to fill our hearts like OSRWATFP, or if we're really lucky, like that band we all used to listen to with the little tough blonde lead singer and the backup guys with the skin problems. Those were our peeps, and now you're kicking us out of the party?"

And fans of the other bands are all, "Well it was kinda hard to hear the music we like. We're happy your guys have been successful, and we love seeing y'all all excited, but we kinda want to hear our guys too."

At least that's how it's playing in my head.

One question, which isn't at all facetious: Nutty, why haven't you written a book about mediafandom? For real. Your explanations of mediafannishness were full of chewy academic goodness.

I still don't understand mediafandom, exactly, but I still think you should write a book about it.

I have to admit I don't get media-fannishness, and everytime anyone goes into paragraphs of explication all I can think is "I'm just here for the sci fi and fantasy...am I the only one?"

So NOT the only one, ita. (Or I could say, ITA, ita.)

I also don't understand when/how mediafannishness became a defining characteristic of Boxed Set.

everytime anyone goes into paragraphs of explication all I can think is "I'm just here for the sci fi and fantasy...am I the only one?"

You're not! I kind of get the whole media-fannish argument, but...I really don't care because it's not why I'm in that thread. I just want to talk about some TV.

I still really feel like the SPN fans are regarded as an overgrown Lab puppy that needs to be whapped on the nose and sent to its new crate.

It really is just a volume thing, I swear. Obviously SPN belongs in Boxed Set thematically, and nobody wants the SPN fans to stop talking about the show, but it's kind of a logistical nightmare to navigate the thread as a non-fan these days.