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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Jul 16, 2007 11:17:08 am PDT #7111 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It's a lot less common to be a mono-fan than it once was, and with the majority of fannish discussion and fic-posting taking place on LJ these days, people are used to cross-polination. Putting SPN into its own thread will change that.

There's another possibility: That the high volume of SPN posts is actually hurting cross-pollination because discussion of other shows is getting drowned out by the SPN squee. Give SPN its own thread, and discussion of these other shows (including the seemingly large number of genre shows debuting this fall) might have more room to cross-pollinate and flourish.


Beverly - Jul 16, 2007 11:17:52 am PDT #7112 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Thanks, DX.

Nutty is so much more articluate than I. I'ma point and nod, okay?


Atropa - Jul 16, 2007 11:19:13 am PDT #7113 of 10289
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I would think it's because of the sustained and prolonged nature of the discussions.

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

EDIT: and I'm not saying "Argh! No more baseball talk! Go somewhere else!", not at ALL. It's just that was what popped into my head when this was brought up. I scroll past baseball stuff and run the chance of missing the discussions of other things that are interspersed with the baseball posts.


Jon B. - Jul 16, 2007 11:19:56 am PDT #7114 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If SPN does end up with a separate thread, does that mean that the next time swarms of baseball talk starts up, I should suggest to the baseball fans that maybe they should have their own thread?

If baseball ever started taking up half the posts in a thread for a sustained period of time, then I think it would be quite reasonable to propose a baseball thread.

t edit and by sustained, I mean (at a minimum) months.


brenda m - Jul 16, 2007 11:20:15 am PDT #7115 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Again, an evolving board culture thing, and it appears to be a facet that's no longer valued nor wanted. Time to let it go, here, and find it or take it elsewhere.

Whoa, hang on there. One can feel that SPN is just possibly dominating a thread beyond what's comfortable for some users without it being any kind of statement at all about mediafannishness.

Media fandom, at least in its current evolution, is often about multi-fannish space.

In fact, one could suggest that the domination (by volume, not by Cabal) might actually be hampering the thread's value as a multi-fannish space, whether it's as a barrier to entry (if you don't watch the show, 75% of the thread is scroll-through) or by making other show discussion hard to find or sustain by folks who want to.

One might, or might not, be convinced by these arguments. But neither of them are necessarily in any way a statement on mediafandom and its welcome in these parts.


Dana - Jul 16, 2007 11:20:20 am PDT #7116 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

Really? I clearly tune it right out, like the dog in the Far Side cartoon.


Nutty - Jul 16, 2007 11:22:48 am PDT #7117 of 10289
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

how is the discussion of SPN any different from the discussions about baseball that take over other threads?

We talk baseball just to annoy Ple. (And cats to annoy Hec. Really, we keep secret lists of annoying topics.)

Although I will say, we don't talk 100 posts in a row about baseball, even during that one 18-inning postseason game last year.

That was way too snippy.

Was it parsnippy? Or Parsippany, as my fingers would really prefer to type?

actually hurting cross-pollination because discussion of other shows is getting drowned out

Could be. Just for reference, what shows are new right now? Eureka and US airings of Who season 3, right? Anything else before all the fall shows start up? What's coming down the pipe where ahemming is concerned?


Lee - Jul 16, 2007 11:24:33 am PDT #7118 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Happy!

Yes!

It was about changing the flavor, the tenor, the use of Boxed Set.

But still, I don't see how moving one show will do that.

My original question was based on my feeling that SPN is the biggest MF show discussed on the board these days, and wondering if moving it would result in the other MF discussion moving with it, and if so, how would that impact Boxed Set.


Jessica - Jul 16, 2007 11:28:58 am PDT #7119 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

As someone who doesn't participate in either, no, it's not. I can't remember ever scrolling past 150 baseball posts in a row. And even during the World Series, other conversations happen in and around the baseball talk in a way that doesn't happen during SPN W&P's.

From my perspective, we already HAVE a dedicated SPN thread that just happens to (virtually) geographically overlap with Boxed Set. I don't see a lot of crosstalk between SPN and other shows -- SPN takes over the thread completely during the W&Ps and ensuing analysis/squeeage and everything else sits back and waits for it to pass.


Zenkitty - Jul 16, 2007 11:29:21 am PDT #7120 of 10289
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

My original question was based on my feeling that SPN is the biggest MF show discussed on the board these days, and wondering if moving it would result in the other MF discussion moving with it, and if so, how would that impact Boxed Set.

Okay, I see. I just never realized that media-fannishness was a defining characteristic of Boxed Set.