It's a lot less common to be a mono-fan than it once was, and with the majority of fannish discussion and fic-posting taking place on LJ these days, people are used to cross-polination. Putting SPN into its own thread will change that.

There's another possibility: That the high volume of SPN posts is actually hurting cross-pollination because discussion of other shows is getting drowned out by the SPN squee. Give SPN its own thread, and discussion of these other shows (including the seemingly large number of genre shows debuting this fall) might have more room to cross-pollinate and flourish.

Thanks, DX.

Nutty is so much more articluate than I. I'ma point and nod, okay?

I would think it's because of the sustained and prolonged nature of the discussions.

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

EDIT: and I'm not saying "Argh! No more baseball talk! Go somewhere else!", not at ALL. It's just that was what popped into my head when this was brought up. I scroll past baseball stuff and run the chance of missing the discussions of other things that are interspersed with the baseball posts.

If SPN does end up with a separate thread, does that mean that the next time swarms of baseball talk starts up, I should suggest to the baseball fans that maybe they should have their own thread?

If baseball ever started taking up half the posts in a thread for a sustained period of time, then I think it would be quite reasonable to propose a baseball thread.

t edit and by sustained, I mean (at a minimum) months.

Again, an evolving board culture thing, and it appears to be a facet that's no longer valued nor wanted. Time to let it go, here, and find it or take it elsewhere.

Whoa, hang on there. One can feel that SPN is just possibly dominating a thread beyond what's comfortable for some users without it being any kind of statement at all about mediafannishness.

Media fandom, at least in its current evolution, is often about multi-fannish space.

In fact, one could suggest that the domination (by volume, not by Cabal) might actually be hampering the thread's value as a multi-fannish space, whether it's as a barrier to entry (if you don't watch the show, 75% of the thread is scroll-through) or by making other show discussion hard to find or sustain by folks who want to.

One might, or might not, be convinced by these arguments. But neither of them are necessarily in any way a statement on mediafandom and its welcome in these parts.

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

Really? I clearly tune it right out, like the dog in the Far Side cartoon.

how is the discussion of SPN any different from the discussions about baseball that take over other threads?

We talk baseball just to annoy Ple. (And cats to annoy Hec. Really, we keep secret lists of annoying topics.)

Although I will say, we don't talk 100 posts in a row about baseball, even during that one 18-inning postseason game last year.

That was way too snippy.

Was it parsnippy? Or Parsippany, as my fingers would really prefer to type?

actually hurting cross-pollination because discussion of other shows is getting drowned out

Could be. Just for reference, what shows are new right now? Eureka and US airings of Who season 3, right? Anything else before all the fall shows start up? What's coming down the pipe where ahemming is concerned?

Happy!

Yes!

It was about changing the flavor, the tenor, the use of Boxed Set.

But still, I don't see how moving one show will do that.

My original question was based on my feeling that SPN is the biggest MF show discussed on the board these days, and wondering if moving it would result in the other MF discussion moving with it, and if so, how would that impact Boxed Set.

But the baseball stuff IS just as sustained and prolonged as show discussion.

As someone who doesn't participate in either, no, it's not. I can't remember ever scrolling past 150 baseball posts in a row. And even during the World Series, other conversations happen in and around the baseball talk in a way that doesn't happen during SPN W&P's.

From my perspective, we already HAVE a dedicated SPN thread that just happens to (virtually) geographically overlap with Boxed Set. I don't see a lot of crosstalk between SPN and other shows -- SPN takes over the thread completely during the W&Ps and ensuing analysis/squeeage and everything else sits back and waits for it to pass.

My original question was based on my feeling that SPN is the biggest MF show discussed on the board these days, and wondering if moving it would result in the other MF discussion moving with it, and if so, how would that impact Boxed Set.

Okay, I see. I just never realized that media-fannishness was a defining characteristic of Boxed Set.