So essentially what you are saying is that I don't understand what media fandom is because I'm not part of media fandom.
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So essentially what you are saying is that I don't understand what media fandom is because I'm not part of media fandom.
The first rule of Fandom is that we don't talk about Fandom?
Gods, I was even in on some of that conversation and had NO memory of it. Not so much with the brain, pretty much ever.
Perhaps the media-fannishness of various shows has to do with who watches them? Maybe the SPN folk are just the loudest flailers right now?
No, ND, that's not it at all. I can only assume that you don't understand media fandom because the multiple definitions provided to you have not been adequate.
It's a culture -- the style and manner of a conversation, not just the topics of a conversation.
Is this the concept you're having trouble with, or is it something else in the definitions Ple or I provided?
It's a culture -- the style and manner of a conversation, not just the topics of a conversation.And that style and manner are what? I think my problem with the definition is that it's so broad. If I tell you the Bronzers style and manner of discussing BtVS is much different from our style and manner of discussing it, you still don't know anything about the style and manner in which they discuss the show. What are we talking about -- linking to/discussing vids and fan fic, or what?
I don't get it either, and I do remember the conversations on this topic that happened before. What shows do we discuss in Boxed Set that do not generate vids and fanfic and in-depth discussion about character motivations etc? They may not last as long as SPN conversations currently are, but I'm pretty sure "media-fandomishness" is in regards to kind, not quantity.
Maybe I'm missing a salient point, but I can't believe that taking one show out of Boxed Set - any show - would change the essential nature of the thread. It's a place for talking at length about SciFi/Fantasy tv shows. Boxed Set not being a dedicated thread, the idea that a show that's been around for 2 seasons has become the flagship of the thread, without which it will lose its direction and flounder, bothers me.
A high volume of posts on a show that isn't even currently airing new episodes really seems to warrant its own thread. Are SPN watchers really getting something from being in Boxed Set that they wouldn't get in a dedicated thread?
Or maybe I'm just totally misunderstanding the objection.
The issue is that the definitions are broad and vague. The use terms like a particular group and then do not define this group.
a show that's been around for 2 seasons has become the flagship of the thread, without which it will lose its direction and flounder, bothers me.
Not what was said, or what was meant.
It was about changing the flavor, the tenor, the use of Boxed Set. Which a majority of people seem to want, so perhaps it's time to let it go, or move it elsewhere, bow to the majority.
use terms like a particular group and then do not define this group.
It's been defined. Perhaps not to the satisfaction of people who don't participate. Again, an evolving board culture thing, and it appears to be a facet that's no longer valued nor wanted. Time to let it go, here, and find it or take it elsewhere.
What are we talking about -- linking to/discussing vids and fan fic, or what?
I never felt it was appropriate to link to fic and/or vids in Boxed Set, since we've got Fanfiction *and* BuffistaFic.
(If it is, I'm more than willing to get media-fannish all over the place, on many more shows than SPN. If that's what we're looking for...)
I never felt it was appropriate to link to fic and/or vids in Boxed Set, since we've got Fanfiction *and* BuffistaFic.
How does either of those encompass vids? I understand not linking to fic, but vids seem like fair game to me. I like vids.
It was about changing the flavor, the tenor, the use of Boxed Set.
Except that media-fannishness has never been the sole flavor or tenor of Boxed Set, which is what some people seem to be insisting. Boxed Set was thrown together from three threads, two of which that were media-fannish, and one that wasn't. It's been a mixed bag from the start.
That said, the complaint isn't that SPN is media-fannish. The complaint is that the sheer volume of posts is overwhelming all the other discussions, media-fannish or otherwise.
It's been defined. Perhaps not to the satisfaction of people who don't participate. Again, an evolving board culture thing, and it appears to be a facet that's no longer valued nor wanted.
I'll be over here with the rest of the mundanes.