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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


aurelia - Jun 20, 2007 7:07:23 pm PDT #6857 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I could be wrong (cause I don't understand a good portion of the stuff in that thread) but in BBaBB I believe there was talk of being able to customize the spoilerfont color in the CSS version of the board.


amych - Jun 20, 2007 7:13:38 pm PDT #6858 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

This is true; nonetheless, I felt the need to lay out the arguments for why (for some) whitefont can be a Bad Thing. We've gone to more and more whitefont, and more and more different rules for it, over time; because we're (rightly) sensitive to spoiler issues in general, the anti-WF stance often just doesn't come up in new thread discussions, but I feel like it's really an uncivilizing influence. Still, I'm sorry if the vehemence went boom at you.


aurelia - Jun 20, 2007 7:31:24 pm PDT #6859 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I didn't notice a boom (I'm pretty dispassionate about this proposal due to my lack of cable). But now I'm confused by the uncivilizing bit. Whitefont is uncivilizing? How so?


DavidS - Jun 20, 2007 7:58:42 pm PDT #6860 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm exactly the opposite of David

Because of your variable Beagle.

I totally get that there are many preferences on the matter.

I dislike white font for the reasons amych notes. Also, I dislike the hyperconsciousness you need in phrasing your post to white font things. It never feels like an engaged discussion, but like people trying to talk around family secrets in front of the kids. It's oblique and I'll-tell-you-in-the-kitchen and bleah.

I know it is the only way the spoiler averse will be able to engage in a bucket thread, but it's a big enough buzzkill for me that I would simply not post in that kind of thread even if it were devoted to nothing but my favorite shows.

But that particular thread isn't going to be a big home for me anyway, so I'm really not advocating so much as articulating my anti-whitefontery.

I do think the people who prefer/like whitefont might be in the minority (or content with TV discussion in Natter), but I'm wondering if it might ultimately be a good idea to have a bucket whitefont thread. Of course, that's even more splintery to the community but I'd consider it. (Because my pro-discussion position still trumps most other concerns.)


NoiseDesign - Jun 20, 2007 9:05:34 pm PDT #6861 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Basically we've got folks that can't deal with bucket threads that don't have white font, and folks that can't deal with bucket threads that have white font.

No matter what we do there's going to be a disenfranchised group of people.


aurelia - Jun 20, 2007 9:11:17 pm PDT #6862 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I do think the people who prefer/like whitefont might be in the minority (or content with TV discussion in Natter), but I'm wondering if it might ultimately be a good idea to have a bucket whitefont thread.

Who gets the star-bellies?


NoiseDesign - Jun 20, 2007 9:23:11 pm PDT #6863 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

I want to start with a star belly, but then I'm thinking I might invent a machine to print them onto others. Then I won't need one. I'll have my star white fonted.


brenda m - Jun 21, 2007 3:06:08 am PDT #6864 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Okay. Catching up on the overnights, I think the questions as I posted them last night will stand, unless someone sees something critical in the next few.

I think I mentioned when I proposed that I wasn't actually sure which way I'd vote. On any of the questions. I'm still not. I wonder if that's a first around here.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 21, 2007 3:08:11 am PDT #6865 of 10289
What is even happening?

brenda, I think that looks like a good ballot.

Nobody is disenfranchised; everyone gets to vote. It's just that some preferences win and some don't. Unless we suddenly become of one mind, which frankly would scare the crap out of me, that's the way it will always be, but we're not disenfranchised. We're highly franchised.

oh! And while I'm grumbling about it, I'd really rather have a single rule like "TV threads are NAFDA". Having different whitefont rules for each thread makes it harder to manage discussions overall.

I lean this way too, amy. It seems to me that if we have a TV thread, it ought to be NAFDA. White-font is one of the reasons Natter doesn't work for me as a TV discussion area.

There was some feedback on the experiment, that indicated some of us found the idea of different rules for different threads made the whole experiment too much of a bother.

What's a star belly? Is it a kind of beagle?

I think I mentioned when I proposed that I wasn't actually sure which way I'd vote. On any of the questions. I'm still not. I wonder if that's a first around here.

brenda, on the experimentals, I didn't know how I'd vote on anything until I voted. I dithered between just about every option. I finally decided to vote for my personal perfect world, rather than what I thought would be the Buffista ideal.


Jon B. - Jun 21, 2007 3:20:05 am PDT #6866 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Hey Brenda. The ballot looks great. The only change I'd like to make is in the wording of the third question. Here's what I'd like to use, which is similar to the past two ballots:

If a separate thread wins, do you want this thread to have whitefonted discussion? Please choose one:

YES (with clear labels as to show being discussed, but no future spoilers)

NO (no future spoilers, no white font, i.e. NAFDA)

NO PREFERENCE

S'alright?