Cereal: Nutty's point about mediafannishness clicked something in me as to why I feel ishy about merging Heroes and SPN. SPN is strongly mediafannish. Heroes -- not so much, and probably has a broader appeal to the Buffistas who are not so steeped in that culture. I'd prefer SPN to remain in Box Set, but would be OK with Heroes branching out.

I think you might be misreading it.

My mistake, then.

I'm not fond of the idea of killing the Lost or VM threads. They will likely die a natural death. If it doesn't muck things up technically they can continue to serve us.

There hasn't been a Boxed Set breakup plan that has thrilled me either. If it is broken in half the problem of avoiding discussion of one show while waiting to catch up on another still exists.

At this point I would support pulling out Heroes if enough people want that, but not making another mixed bag tv thread. Still reading the discussion because it is interesting to read how other people view and use the threads. Also, if anyone feels really strongly one way or another I accept bribes.

Nutty has spicy brains.

framework that allows for some separation of show discussion while at the same time limiting the possibility of thread proliferation.

Part of me likes this idea, but... first off, I know that I would just come into the Fox thread blabbling about House every week, which is not genre. (Since we are dealing with the shows that fall into the "genre" category, I was extending that to the hypothetical new threads.)

I think having a network-related thread (that isn't whitefonted) will cause issues, because everyone will have some show that they didn't watch yet that week that people will be talking about. And if we're talking about incorporating whitefont, then we don't need to worry about Boxed Set, it will just become a field of snow.

I've gotta say I've had the same issues with not going into Boxed Set so I'm not spoiled. I think tagging would be excellent if we can implement it... if nothing else, we start every post with the name of the show, and then people can skip posts. (Too thread-nannying, though?)

I don't know that splitting to network/cable would lighten the load that much. Heroes (which is what started this) would end up in the same thread as Supernatural, which is also post-heavy (at least recently). Would that really fix a problem that something like tagging posts wouldn't?

On the server load table size tech issue thing. Just for clarity in my mind, are we fine with speed and server load because of the shiny dedicated server, but there is concern over the size of the table(s)?

Tagging posts might not be needed all the time. When a watch n post is happening it wouldn't make sense. But if I had a brilliant theory or a question about BSG in the middle of a flurry of Heroes posts I would tag BSG so it would pop out to those fans. Also, using tags when a post covers 3 shows is helpful.

When discussing the hottitude of the various Jacks, tags not needed.

I worry that Boxed Set is understood as more than one thing to many people. For me, I regard it as a media-fandom thread, where people talk about the shows they watch in a particularly cultural way. That's why, e.g., Spooks conversation pops up in there often, despite Spooks not being a science-fiction-y show. It's a mediafannish show. To my mind, Boxed Set and the Fanfiction thread are basically two aspects of the same thing: and that thing is not "What's on the Sci Fi Channel" except incidentally.

Am I imagining that non scifi/spec-fic show discussion has been frowned upon in Boxed Set? (I might be.) I don't know Spooks or its premise, but it seems to me when the discussion has veered toward a "regular" show, we've been redirected to make sure it doesn't become a de facto general TV thread, and media-fannishness was never mentioned as the criteria (openly enough for me to discern it) anyhow.

ita, specifically, I have a (quite) dim memory of you frowning on a conversation about a non "genre" show (in the way we use "genre" when talking about Boxed Set). It's really dim. I can't remember what discussion you frowned upon, or anything. Am I mistaken? (I may well be).

I stepped in the guac a bit over mentioning something non-genre in Boxed Set, as I recall.

Those of us who like to put our feet in our mouths find guac is quite tasty on toes, Ailleann.

I think tagging would be way more difficult than is practicable. And putting in some kind of auto-tag facility would be a whole bunch of reprogramming.

Vonnie is enticing me back to my original suggestion, and why Heroes stands out as a show that could amply sustain its own thread. It has a significantly wider appeal than just the mediafan!Buffistas, plus enough plotting, characters, world-building, supplementary materials (web comics, for one!) whose discussion would be enhanced by a dedicated thread.

I'm still following VM and Lost both, so while I'm not in love with closing those threads down, I could see swapping Lost chatter into BS and spawning a Heroes thread instead. VM I don't see as foldable, but it will take a miracle for it to be renewed, frankly, so I have a feeling that the thread will reach its natural conclusion soon enough.

Up above, who gave us a list of the media threads we've added through the last few years? That's very helpful -- it's not a pell mell addition process, is it?