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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 7:50:56 pm PDT #6173 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

PR conversations seem just fine in Natter, I repeat. I mean, the people having them seem not to be not having them well.

God, it's too late to speak English.

Basically, I still really don't like the idea of a general TV thread. I'm anti-proliferation yet would rather see one thread per show than a thread I, a TiVo addict, just can't use. There's nothing in it for me, and I don't think there's enough practicality to the idea for me to vote for it for other people.


sumi - Aug 15, 2006 8:12:18 pm PDT #6174 of 10289
Art Crawl!!!

I'm more confused by ita's first sentence then I am by reading whitefonted conversations about various tv shows in Natter.


DebetEsse - Aug 15, 2006 8:12:58 pm PDT #6175 of 10289
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't like the general tv thread, either, but if people really want something like that, I wonder if there would be a way to do a few/some Boxed Sets that would cover more or less everything, but in easy-to-chew segments (Current, Premium, Reality, I don't know what else we would need). It seems like that would be more workable than a general tv thread.


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 8:16:24 pm PDT #6176 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm more confused by ita's first sentence then I am by reading whitefonted conversations about various tv shows in Natter.

Exactly my point.

Pretty much.

I think.


Polter-Cow - Aug 15, 2006 9:12:27 pm PDT #6177 of 10289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm more confused by ita's first sentence then I am by reading whitefonted conversations about various tv shows in Natter.

You mean her second sentence, which simply supports the statement made in her first sentence.


sumi - Aug 16, 2006 4:18:13 am PDT #6178 of 10289
Art Crawl!!!

I may mean her untyped third sentence, that clarifies it all.


Laura - Aug 16, 2006 6:56:33 am PDT #6179 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

At the moment I don't have Premium channels because I found I wasn't home to watch stuff on a timely basis and that left the premium channels as playtoys for the boys.

In general I support the notion of the new thread for those that want the concentrated discussion. I enjoy seeing tv talk in Natter, but mostly I don't watch the shows.

So, um, I'll probably vote no pref because it's good either way.


Gus - Aug 16, 2006 12:43:09 pm PDT #6180 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I would just like to be able to find intelligent viewpoints about shows I am actually watching. Today. Not back in the day.


Liese S. - Aug 16, 2006 3:00:39 pm PDT #6181 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

First? As a PR fan, I'm not not having PR conversations well in Natter. I'm having them just fine. And the PR whitefont tends to amuse. I skip it when I haven't watched my Tivo'd copy, I scroll back to it when I have, I highlight, I laff, and laff. It's fine, and I skip a bunch of Natter, too.

Second? I definitely am in favor of ita's bright line. Movies should stay movies, because their release mechanisms, duration of discussion, and finite narrative structure differentiate them from television, even mini-series type television. This thread, should it come up, should have some clearly definable (even to Buffistas) boundary for what discussion should occur there.

Thirdly, I agree with Nutty about the general reason for bringing up a new thread; that it overwhelms Natter by volume. While I sympathize with Corwood for his problem in Natter overwhelming his particular discussion, I am not convinced that adding a thread is the right decision. Could we look at other possible solutions? I was going to suggest some sort of tagging system, but I don't think that will solve any problems that the search function doesn't already.

And lastly, I hesitate to bring this up, because it may not be an issue for anyone. But I'd rather voice it and have everyone say, "What?" than ignore it.

Is there a privilege issue with branding a thread specifically for premium channel movies? Some people (myself included) will not likely be able to afford premium channels, and this thread will explicitly exclude them. It won't intentionally be an economic barrier, but it will functionally be. Is this an issue for us? Is this something we care about? Does it affect the way we want to structure our boards?

eta: In some ways, I suppose the boards themselves are economically self-selecting, because I have to be able to afford the internet, television, and leisure time to even be here. So maybe it doesn't matter that much more?


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 3:06:40 pm PDT #6182 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this thread will explicitly exclude them

I don't have premium channels, but I'm watching Deadwood via DVD. I don't think it is more exclusive than the movie thread--I don't know if anyone can't afford to see movies here, but it's certainly possible.

I don't think we can sensibly be bound by making sure every thread is financially inviting for every (or even any) Buffista.