yes, Cindy.

Jon, I was thinking runoff if no option gets more than x%. Don't know what x equals.

Me, I can't separate the thread's existence from the spoiler handling. Putting my anti-prolif stance aside, that is. My yes vote that turned out to be for a no whitefont thread is a wasted yes vote.

I am against whitefont in a "New Shows" thread, but I think I'm for it in a TV Natter thread. Does that make sense? "New Shows" is a time-sensitive idea, and I really think the thread should only be open for like 2 months before all TV talk migrates back to its usual home (Natter) or gets its own thread (e.g. VM).

A general TV Natter thread has no time constraints, so whitefont makes more sense. Despite my formally stated dislike of 90% whitefont discussions.

So, really when you're saying stuff like KC is really excellent or really sucks -- that doesn't have to be whitefonted but when it's all "can you believe that NB and DC did whatever" - that should be whitefonted.

I think should a new thread be created, we may have to have a different discussion round and different ballot for white font.

So, really when you're saying stuff like KC is really excellent or really sucks -- that doesn't have to be whitefonted but when it's all "can you believe that NB and DC did whatever" - that should be whitefonted.

What I am saying? No. I really think that the purpose of the thread -- short-term expose-me-to-everything vs. long-term more-careful -- determines in my mind the need for whitefont.

Like how in Spoilers, there is no whitefont, ever, whether it is casting spoilers or an in-depth discussion of 24 (this spring). In Spoilage Lite, whitefont.

I kind of like the idea of an all-NAFDA-alla-time, no-holds-barred short-term thread, or anyway moreso than a TV Natter.

Not surprisingly, I'm with ita on spoiler policy being they key to my understanding of the topics.

I don't think it's a good idea for us to establish a topic, for which we don't have things like whitefont worked out in advance and I pretty much would strongly object to voting it in then establishing a policy after the fact.

Do you have suggestions about how to resolve this?

le nubian, how about something like this:

1. Should we have a new thread that covers Fall TV (covering new series that debut in September or October)?

a. No
b. Yes, with no whitefont at all. ever.
c. Whitefont (with show title in black font) for 7 days. Then fade to black.
d. Whitefont (with show title in black font) current season discussion.
e. Whitefont (with show title in black font) all the time.
f. No Opinion.

2. Should we have a new Natter TV thread (covering all tv series - new and continuing that aren't covered in separate threads)?

a. No
b. Yes, with no whitefont at all. ever.
c. Whitefont (with show title in black font) for 7 days. Then fade to black.
d. Whitefont (with show title in black font) current season discussion.
e. Whitefont (with show title in black font) all the time.
f. No Opinion.

3. If items #1 and #2 both pass, should we both new threads, or only one?

a) One
b) Two

4. If, per item #3, the board decides only one new thread should be added, which one would you prefer?

a) Fall TV
b) TV Natter

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Explanation:

I changed the set up some, to allow people to vote against the thread(s) they may not want, a little more. I knew I would be uncomfortable giving a "yes" vote to question one in the previous version, unless I could know which type of thread was going to pass, and what the spoiler policy would be.

I also clarified about labels, because the prior version read like only the "all white font all the time" option was going to require show title labels in black font. I thought the white font would be more useful if we know what is under it, and whether or not it's something we want to read.

1. Should we have a new thread that covers Fall TV (covering new series that debut in September or October)? a. No b. Yes, with no whitefont at all. ever. c. Whitefont (with show title in black font) for 7 days. Then fade to black. d. Whitefont (with show title in black font) current season discussion. e. Whitefont (with show title in black font) all the time. f. No Opinion.

How do you total these up, though? Say No gets 20% of the vote, and b, c, and d each get 15%. Is that a yes or a no to a thread?

I'm wondering if the only way to work this will be to decide an option for each thread before we go to a vote - Fall TV with no white font, say, v. TV Natter with white font for current ep, v. No New Thread.