How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Wolfram - Apr 15, 2005 8:52:28 am PDT #5613 of 10289
Visilurking

Also I'm with ND about (not) setting precedents on what we vote on. The less we legislate behavior and humor on this board, the better.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2005 8:54:13 am PDT #5614 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Again, I think we can make changes to Etiquette by consensus.

Changes to Policy by vote.

I think we should deal with this as an Etiquette question.


msbelle - Apr 15, 2005 8:54:21 am PDT #5615 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Figuring out a change in policy has required a vote, unless there is a clear consensus.

I could be wrong and welcome finding when this happened, but I think that once the voting was approved in 2/2003 - that we have voted on all policy changes.

We made a number of changes to the FAQ last year that didn't require a single vote. If everyone is on the same page - why go through the aggravation. It's like drafting by committee.

We any of those changes dealing with policy or procedures on the board? Because I looked and I couldn't find ones that were.


Connie Neil - Apr 15, 2005 8:54:40 am PDT #5616 of 10289
brillig

I'd rather not see a vote at all. I'd like to see a trend of issues in LB not having to be voted on all the time. Voting to me seems like a last resort - a necessary evil. Like the kids couldn't settle it themselves on the playground and had to get the teacher to sort it out. It kills me that we seemed to have a real consensus from both sides of this issue, yet folks still want to vote on it just because we can.

Yeah. t still watching the debate though it seemed settled very amicably last night


Aims - Apr 15, 2005 8:56:51 am PDT #5617 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

There seems to be a semantics thing here. msbelle, you see this as a policy change, yes? And ND, you see it as an etiquette change, right?


msbelle - Apr 15, 2005 8:57:47 am PDT #5618 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

David - what are policies and where are they identified?


Jon B. - Apr 15, 2005 8:58:33 am PDT #5619 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm very confused. I get that some people think we should vote on this policy/etiquette change. But is anyone against asking multiple-IDed users to put their "real" ID in their profile?

Isn't that all Betsy's latest proposal says?


Lyra Jane - Apr 15, 2005 8:59:16 am PDT #5620 of 10289
Up with the sun

Personally, I think this issue can be solved by people exercising their right to use the block feature.

Would you please show me how to preemptively block every sockpuppet anyone will think of and all posts made in conversations involving them, without blocking anything else? Because my block function won't do that.

But that's a "this annoys me" issue, and I agree that we shouldn't vote to ban things entirely because they annoy people. My more serious concern, the possibility of trolling through a sockpuppet, is addressed by requesting/requiring that secondary logins have a note in the profile saying who's doing the typing. So that's what I would vote for, if it is on the ballot.


Connie Neil - Apr 15, 2005 9:01:38 am PDT #5621 of 10289
brillig

But is anyone against asking multiple-IDed users to put their "real" ID in their profile?

Not that I've seen.


JohnSweden - Apr 15, 2005 9:01:56 am PDT #5622 of 10289
I can't even.

My more serious concern, the possibility of trolling through a sockpuppet, is addressed by requesting/requiring that secondary logins have a note in the profile saying who's doing the typing. So that's what I would vote for, if it is on the ballot.

What year did the only known example of this activity take place?