I'd rather not see a vote at all. I'd like to see a trend of issues in LB not having to be voted on all the time. Voting to me seems like a last resort - a necessary evil. Like the kids couldn't settle it themselves on the playground and had to get the teacher to sort it out. It kills me that we seemed to have a real consensus from both sides of this issue, yet folks still want to vote on it just because we can.

Yeah. t still watching the debate though it seemed settled very amicably last night

There seems to be a semantics thing here. msbelle, you see this as a policy change, yes? And ND, you see it as an etiquette change, right?

David - what are policies and where are they identified?

I'm very confused. I get that some people think we should vote on this policy/etiquette change. But is anyone against asking multiple-IDed users to put their "real" ID in their profile?

Isn't that all Betsy's latest proposal says?

Personally, I think this issue can be solved by people exercising their right to use the block feature.

Would you please show me how to preemptively block every sockpuppet anyone will think of and all posts made in conversations involving them, without blocking anything else? Because my block function won't do that.

But that's a "this annoys me" issue, and I agree that we shouldn't vote to ban things entirely because they annoy people. My more serious concern, the possibility of trolling through a sockpuppet, is addressed by requesting/requiring that secondary logins have a note in the profile saying who's doing the typing. So that's what I would vote for, if it is on the ballot.

But is anyone against asking multiple-IDed users to put their "real" ID in their profile?

Not that I've seen.

My more serious concern, the possibility of trolling through a sockpuppet, is addressed by requesting/requiring that secondary logins have a note in the profile saying who's doing the typing. So that's what I would vote for, if it is on the ballot.

What year did the only known example of this activity take place?

Who was it (amych? Plei?) who said something like Buffistas are constitutionally unable to take the piss.

It probably was me:

shrift: It is a truth universally acknowledged that Buffistas are incapable of taking the piss.

What year did the only known example of this activity take place?

That's beside the point, John -- it could happen again at any date.

Are you saying you have a serious objection to asking that secondary logins identify themselves in the profile?

Lyra Jane - you couldn't pre-emptively block a sockpuppet anymore than you can pre-emptively block a new poster who you will find annoying. I never meant to suggest that. I just meant that as soon as it seems clear to you that they are a sockpuppet or as soon as they annoy you then you can block them and no longer deal with the annoyance.