sophia is the wordiest. I can't wait to see her ballot.

i think lowercaps italics are the best approximation of anti-caps. hear me now and believe me later.

Well, I'd forgotten them. I'm sorry. No need for the asscaps. Reference an old post or something.

Eh, Kat speaks for me, basically. And the ass caps were simply my I'M TYPING IN THE DARK AND FUCKING UP QUICK EDIT notation for BOLD, which I did mention. (my keyboard tray is half under my desk, and at night, typing with the lights out means guessing where my fingers are and retyping half of what I say, because gakd (half) the time I'm typing and not looking at what I'm doing and realize my fingers are on the wrong keys at the last minute.)

Yay!

There is consensus.

Don't bother answering that. I already said I liked Cindy's ballot (though I'm still not sure what we'll do with the results of the second question).

It is for information gathering purposes only. If six months gets shot down, yet we still want to have a moratorium (and God - I think we will), whomever makes a new try at a moratorium proposal will have a clear picture of what time limit most people want, and hopefully, a proposal can be drafted that represents what most people want.

We think six, three and four are most favored among Buffistas, because they are the numbers that about 20 of us have thrown out. But what if everyone who doesn't come here but does vote, thinks 7 is the one true number? This just lets us check the pulse of the folks who hate six, if and only if 6 fails.

FWIW, all caps still comes across to me as yelling. IF that's not the intent, it's good to know.

Because yelling, way more than bolding, is the way to scare off Buffistas like me from a discussion, or else to prompt posts along the lines of "Okay why are we not chilling?", which so populate Bureaucracy.

Color me surprised. I think I already agreed to Cindy's ballot, but just in case it got lost in my rhetoric, AGREE.

ETA: Sorry for yelling Nutty.

FWIW, all caps still comes across to me as yelling. IF that's not the intent, it's good to know.

That's why I mentioned in one of the posts that I was ASSCAPPING because I was failing my quick edit. Next time I'm failing quick edit, I'll use _this_ instead. Or some other notation. CAPS are just faster for me to type.

Can we close discussion at noon but not start the voting until this evening?

That sounds fine to me, Jon.

You asked me quite awhile back (and I lost my response while dealing with one baby while the other one mangled the computer -- they're double teaming me!) why we should drop something if some people are offended if it happens and some are offended if it doesn't. I didn't respond because of the baby thing and because it was awhile, but that's rude, so, my response:

I think that's because, while we all like shiny new things, we're all here -- so, theoretically, not adopting the shiny new thing right now, whether we do later or not, shouldn't make us lose people, whereas adopting it now might.

I could say that more prettily, or better, but I hope you get the gist of it, which is not intended to offend anyone. I could do better, but then today would end up like yesterday and that would be bad. I have real life things to do and I've been putting my energies into the wrong thing, for me.

Seven years and 3 kids ago

I had to read that twice before it would untangle. I kept seeing 3 years and seven kids ago.

edited to attribute because it took me so long to post.

I had to read that twice before it would untangle. I kept seeing 3 years and seven kids ago.

Dear me, thank goodness that's not my life. There's only 4 years, 3 months (minus 2 days) between the birthdays of number one and number three. That was close enough!

Also, you said what you said very prettily Deena. We already like it here. The path of least resistance, the path most likely to keep us from getting upset or dissatisfied with Buffistaing, is to keep things the same.

I think that's because, while we all like shiny new things, we're all here -- so, theoretically, not adopting the shiny new thing right now, whether we do later or not, shouldn't make us lose people, whereas adopting it now might.

That makes sense, Deena. Thanks. Some people said they were against the instant runoff because, well, what's the rush? And I get that too. But I was also seeing people sick and tired of voting about voting, so in this one case it made sense, to me, to speed things up with my ballot.

Also, and this is mostly to Kat & Plei, my thought process in asking for a reason was not "you are WRONG, Fucker! Justify your piss-ass self!" It was because I was looking for a consensus. And you can't build a consensus unless you understand the viewpoint of those you initially disagree with. I consider myself a very thoughtful person. I have strong opinions, but I'm always willing to revisit them if people give me a reason to. Just saying "I'm against it" doesn't cut it.

whomever makes a new try at a moratorium proposal will have a clear picture of what time limit most people want

That makes sense, too. Lots of sense this AM. Makes me want to sneeze.