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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Trudy Booth - Apr 13, 2005 7:20:50 pm PDT #5388 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Really? I'm noticing that they seem to annoy a lot more people than I thought, it's just that the one's that are amused are very ardent in their defense.
Perception is a funny thing -- I saw that completly the other way around.


Polter-Cow - Apr 13, 2005 7:21:59 pm PDT #5389 of 10289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Pretty much all my points have been made for me, but I just felt like saying I find sockpuppets amusing. The Universe stuff was the only stuff I really even read when skimming the last 600 posts in Bitches. Putting the identity in the profile is a fine idea.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 7:25:26 pm PDT #5390 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Maria - Apr 13, 2005 7:26:39 pm PDT #5391 of 10289
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 person who cares more about the loss of a dedicated Angel thread than the whole sockpuppet convo.

Me. ita's proven right again.

I'm in the capitalized consonant people corner. Do I think it's showboating? Sometimes. Do I think it's humorous? Sometimes. Do I think community members occasionally have legitimate reasons to use pseudonyms? Absolutely. I don't want Kristen and Allyson misquotage or pent-up frustration because they can't say what they truly feel on a topic that's important to them. That's a disservice to everyone.

Bottom line: I trust people on this board to have common sense. Things rarely get out of control, and when it does, it's shut down PDQ. If a sockpuppet is/was/shall be out of line, I have no compunction on calling them on their shit, nor do I have any doubt that 50 others would as well.

I'm for the consensus, but an announcement should be posted in Press and LB should be kept open in accordance with Buffista Rules of Order.

The tagline is purely for fun and good-natured snark and should not be construed in any way as a personal attack on anyone, 'k?

Is it just me, or am I seeing more disclaimers lately? At least for me, it's a shame Kristin has to qualify her humor.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2005 7:29:39 pm PDT #5392 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Perception is a funny thing -- I saw that completly the other way around.

Well, I will admit that they annoy me, but it never occurred to me before today that they annoyed others as well. And I saw several posters say that they found them annoying, but they felt their own bother was outweighed by the amusement sockpuppets bring others.


Gandalfe - Apr 13, 2005 7:38:44 pm PDT #5393 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I can find sockpuppets amusing. But I can definitely see the potential for abuse. There were some people on TT that delighted in making up pseuds, specifically to attack people (often me) surreptitiously.

That said, it doesn't bother me at this point one way or t'other. I haven't been bothered (that I know of) by anyone lately.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 7:46:55 pm PDT #5394 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, FTR, I don't get the Jesusland comparisons either. Then again, I never get the comparisons folks draw between the board and the US government.

I hadn't realized I was being that obtuse with my point. I mean I know I was having trouble making my point effectively, but still.

Also, FTR, I went out of my way to comment on the fact that the board is NOT like the US government, but I guess you totally glossed or skipped over that post of mine.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2005 7:58:05 pm PDT #5395 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Don't worry, I'm not asking you to rehash your point, Sean.


DebetEsse - Apr 13, 2005 8:06:17 pm PDT #5396 of 10289
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Maybe not now (and please tell me if you think so), but I think it deserves saying, if not discussing. I've always been under the impression that we vote on procedural stuff, and try to censense the cultural stuff, if we can. I've always liked that not everything is spelled out in the rules. Call it relational, call it feminine, call it closer to the Earth, but I'd rather work with "Don't be an asshole" (realizing that definitions vary) than "don't do AAA, AAB, AAC...KBZ".


Kat - Apr 13, 2005 8:07:13 pm PDT #5397 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Huh....

Let's see.

Hate sockpuppets because I think they are this weird thing that makes me not trust people I already don't know. I either assume they are someone's sockpuppet if they dive in and it makes me wonder about them.

Maybe the problem is I just don't find them funny. Which is, whatever. Luckily, I am in few places where I have to read them so in reality, even though I feel strongly and I'd vote against them, I don't give enough of a shit to force a vote.

Voting system? Enh. It works well enough. Which is not to say it's great, but this doesn't seem like it's the time or proposal with which to rail against the status quo.

Shutting the discussion within a handful of hours? Also have an issue with because lots of people don't spend all day mainlining the internet so to bring up something that does bother people, even if it not strongly and then say "We have conensus" and stop the convo is irritating.

Happily, like the last Big Discussion, this is one I actually care so little about.