'Not Fade Away'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Huh. Go to class, and something's proposed and consensed before you can blink.
I dislike the "not in on the joke" feeling that sockpuppets give me, but I'm profoundly uncomfortable with making a rule that says you CANNOT have ANY OTHER LOGIN, you big LOSER (except for these people we've made exceptions for).
I realize the issue is pretty much decided, but I'm with ND and DX and possibly other initialed people.
yes, this is sort of a quick consensing with no announcement. I think there might be more interest in the topic if folks knew it was happening. I'm not saying we have to put it to a vote, but I'd feel a hell of a lot more comfortable if the discussion was on the table long enough for more people to find it, or, better, be alerted to it.
Well, we could have Betsy propose that she's a weirdo. We could vote on that.
I'm good with that.
Well, we could have Betsy propose that she's a weirdo. We could vote on that.
I think we might need preferential voting on this one.
I TOTALLY am a weirdo. No vote needed, it's by acclamation.
1) I CANNOT believe that no one had a string of posts from sockpuppets agreeing with them. That would have been the funniest thing ever.
2) I think it's too soon to come to "consensus" on this issue -- there's a reason we made formal discussion over a few days, because not everyone is at the computer every minute.
I haven't noticed the puppetry -- this is mostly going on in Bitches? Huh. So I don't have a strong opinion either way.
That said, I still have stuff to say:
The thing that scares me is that someday, there will be a March who *won't* be an innocent in joke. And I really don't want to have a precedent that says we're okay with sockpuppetry.
The thing that worries me about this is that people will let it go for a while, assuming it's someone we know, we just don't know who. And this includes the (hypothetical) person being made to feel uncomfortable -- they let it go because they don't want to be a party pooper or whatever.
I do have some concern about what Kristen brought up, that people might have legit reasons for multiple logins, and the potential Sang Sacre exemption. It becomes exactly as in-crowd-y as saying "Well, you KNOW who it is, and you KNOW it's just a joke!" (Edit to add that putting your real Buffista name in the profile doesn't help Kristen post incognito-like.)
It's possible that it's a cranky set of five people who have to deal or leave. Or it's something that's not of sufficient value to the people doing it that they stop.
Without discussion who will know?
Right, this. YAY DISCUSSION. This is a big group of people. If five people feel a given way, this is the best way to figure out if those five vocal people are representing 500 or not.
What I'm afraid of with this is the syndrome of "Oh, by the way, I've always hated psueds all in lower case, they really bother me. It's not that much of a problem to have the initial letters upper-case, and the inconvenience is outweighed by the annoyance that's avoided."
Oh please. If you have not gotten that there is more to this than just personal annoyance, I don't even know what to say. (And I'm not saying there's a LOT more to it than annoyance, but there is something there.)
So I don't get anything out of the TV talk in Natter, and in a mild way it annoys me, insofar as when I see lots of posts in Natter I'm always hoping for an intriguing or amusing discussion and half the time it's just whitefont on some show I don't watch.
Man, I love it when I find I can skip half the posts in Natter, whether they are about a tv show I don't watch or a sport I don't follow. Who has time to read every post? Anyway....
I have to go have a gripe-fest in my LJ now.
Jesse just cracked my shit up. I know the Seantatorship would go down in flames, but I might propose a Jessetatorship.
If only I thought I had the votes....
1) I CANNOT believe that no one had a string of posts from sockpuppets agreeing with them. That would have been the funniest thing ever.
It was tempting but seemed unproductive.
If only I thought I had the votes....
Dude, you control the Phoenix purse-strings. And I'm quite certain that I can speak unequivocally for all 500+ of us when I say HELLS YEAH we can be bought.