Well, we could have Betsy propose that she's a weirdo. We could vote on that.
I'm good with that.
I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.
Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 5:24:09 pm PDT #5377 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Lee - Apr 13, 2005 5:53:59 pm PDT #5378 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Well, we could have Betsy propose that she's a weirdo. We could vote on that.
I think we might need preferential voting on this one.
Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 5:56:31 pm PDT #5379 of 10289
If I only had a brain...
I TOTALLY am a weirdo. No vote needed, it's by acclamation.
Jesse - Apr 13, 2005 5:59:32 pm PDT #5380 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
1) I CANNOT believe that no one had a string of posts from sockpuppets agreeing with them. That would have been the funniest thing ever.
2) I think it's too soon to come to "consensus" on this issue -- there's a reason we made formal discussion over a few days, because not everyone is at the computer every minute.
I haven't noticed the puppetry -- this is mostly going on in Bitches? Huh. So I don't have a strong opinion either way.
That said, I still have stuff to say:
The thing that scares me is that someday, there will be a March who *won't* be an innocent in joke. And I really don't want to have a precedent that says we're okay with sockpuppetry.
The thing that worries me about this is that people will let it go for a while, assuming it's someone we know, we just don't know who. And this includes the (hypothetical) person being made to feel uncomfortable -- they let it go because they don't want to be a party pooper or whatever.
I do have some concern about what Kristen brought up, that people might have legit reasons for multiple logins, and the potential Sang Sacre exemption. It becomes exactly as in-crowd-y as saying "Well, you KNOW who it is, and you KNOW it's just a joke!" (Edit to add that putting your real Buffista name in the profile doesn't help Kristen post incognito-like.)
It's possible that it's a cranky set of five people who have to deal or leave. Or it's something that's not of sufficient value to the people doing it that they stop.
Without discussion who will know?
Right, this. YAY DISCUSSION. This is a big group of people. If five people feel a given way, this is the best way to figure out if those five vocal people are representing 500 or not.
What I'm afraid of with this is the syndrome of "Oh, by the way, I've always hated psueds all in lower case, they really bother me. It's not that much of a problem to have the initial letters upper-case, and the inconvenience is outweighed by the annoyance that's avoided."
Oh please. If you have not gotten that there is more to this than just personal annoyance, I don't even know what to say. (And I'm not saying there's a LOT more to it than annoyance, but there is something there.)
So I don't get anything out of the TV talk in Natter, and in a mild way it annoys me, insofar as when I see lots of posts in Natter I'm always hoping for an intriguing or amusing discussion and half the time it's just whitefont on some show I don't watch.
Man, I love it when I find I can skip half the posts in Natter, whether they are about a tv show I don't watch or a sport I don't follow. Who has time to read every post? Anyway....
I have to go have a gripe-fest in my LJ now.
Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 6:13:15 pm PDT #5381 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Jesse just cracked my shit up. I know the Seantatorship would go down in flames, but I might propose a Jessetatorship.
Jesse - Apr 13, 2005 6:20:59 pm PDT #5382 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
If only I thought I had the votes....
Trudy Booth - Apr 13, 2005 6:25:20 pm PDT #5383 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
1) I CANNOT believe that no one had a string of posts from sockpuppets agreeing with them. That would have been the funniest thing ever.
It was tempting but seemed unproductive.
JZ - Apr 13, 2005 6:30:50 pm PDT #5384 of 10289
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
If only I thought I had the votes....
Dude, you control the Phoenix purse-strings. And I'm quite certain that I can speak unequivocally for all 500+ of us when I say HELLS YEAH we can be bought.
Pix - Apr 13, 2005 6:58:52 pm PDT #5385 of 10289
The status is NOT quo.
I'm consensed, but I agree we should leave the discussion open for a bit to make sure everyone who wants a voice gets one.
(The tagline is purely for fun and good-natured snark and should not be construed in any way as a personal attack on anyone, 'k? I just got the giggles at the image of a stompy cornering a newbie, shining a big Maglite in their eyes, and asking this question sternly.)
Laura - Apr 13, 2005 7:14:52 pm PDT #5386 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
Skimmed the last couple hundred posts in a couple minutes and am pleased to see we may be consensed.
The ability to peek at the profile to identify the poster is a good plan. I don't get annoyed by the sockpuppets, but I have been frustrated by not being sure of the secret identity. Mostly I knew who they were and found it funny.
If I didn't find it funny, or found it annoying, I would use that handy Block feature. I keep forgetting that option. Then again, I am tough to annoy.
Not voting and just adopting a gentleperson's agreement would be dandy.