Yes to Cindy's ballot. Yay for Cindy, who puts the "Oh, me!" in foamy.

I'm much foamier without my cranky pants, don't you think, Gus? poses

I don't prefer my suggestion over Nutty's, or vice versa. They accomplish the same things. For me, however Sophia decides to word it is good, because she's the woman that made the proposal that garnered the seconds, and this is her ballot to fly.

Sophia, if you use parts of mine, I do suggest changing question two's wording to what I suggested to Jon B in this post: Cindy "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Mar 25, 2003 9:33:16 am EST

I only suggest this, because then that survey will give us a much clearer picture of what is wanted by the Buffistas -- that is, those Buffistas who do care, and will vote, but can't bring themselves to Bureaucracy or Lightbulb. I'm not married to this, either though.

So I'm not sure why the default seems to be dropping it.

Brenda, my thinking was to be avoidant of the thing that causes the screaming capital letters. Which is to say, I err on the side of caution and/or inertial lack of change to our current system. Which, on the whole, I would call a Buffista thing to do. That, and agonizing about it.

So. One for the Nutty rewrite, most of the rest for Cindy #492 -- have we consensed? Is anyone incensed? Have we a ballot?

(If we do, say Yay!)

Brenda, my thinking was to be avoidant of the thing that causes the screaming capital letters. Which is to say, I err on the side of caution and/or inertial lack of change to our current system.

Ditto.

Just to reaffirm in a post with fewer words - let's let Sophia decide how to word the ballot, and not get into crafting the proposal by committee any further.

She proposed something. She's gotten feedback. Let us let her edit and make the final draft. Then we have no more frustration by committee.

An aside: You know I flubbed committee in a spelling bee in the third grade, and have always remembered it every time I've written committee since then *cough*27 or 28 years ago*cough*

I think I have just been flashed by Cindy. It's my new religion.

I have about ten minutes to spend here, but it seems like we can't do anything until Jon makes a new ballot.

Question for Nutty:

If 3 or 4 wins do we take another vote?

You know, I do believe I do the same thing with "handkerchief". I left off the D in a 5th grade spelling bee. Never get that wrong again.

Point taken on the thing, Cindy. Just enthusiastic that we can get back on our little dirt path towards Enlightenment.

Sophia, since you're short on time, I'd say go ahead and word the ballot however you want it, and Jon can make up the form based on that.

Jon, I had stated my reasons before. My reasons haven't changed.

Well, I'd forgotten them. I'm sorry. No need for the asscaps. Reference an old post or something.

Because if an act will offend people, it's better not to do it.

And, theoretically speaking, if it offends an equal number of people not to do it? What then?

Don't bother answering that. I already said I liked Cindy's ballot (though I'm still not sure what we'll do with the results of the second question).

Um, sure, why not. I think that's a viable option. It can be pretty well instantaneous as soon as thre results come in, if it's necesary, because we've seen what trying to argue about the virtues of integers did to this thread!!

Whatever you think is simplest/works best, Sophia.