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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Aims - Apr 13, 2005 1:25:59 pm PDT #5218 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Have we EVER opened Lightbulbs without ultimately voting?

I think so, but I can't remember on what.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 1:26:09 pm PDT #5219 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Have we EVER opened Lightbulbs without ultimately voting?

Yes, once. I think.

We don't have to vote, you know.

Ah, I'm just posting to hear the sound of my own keyboard at this point....

Also, it should be noted that my comment about too much input even holds true for me. Sometimes even I don't have anything helpful to add to a discussion.

Yes, you may all drop your mouths open in shock now.


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2005 1:27:04 pm PDT #5220 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Clovis, Ferrets, Zombies, and God have been here as long as I have.

ND, God showed up after you did. Clovis showed up after that. Zombie Robots way after that.

Not that I think them having been around longer than you makes a difference to how I feel about them. Just that your facts are off.


msbelle - Apr 13, 2005 1:28:32 pm PDT #5221 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Was there any sock-puppetry prior to the Phoenix?


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2005 1:28:55 pm PDT #5222 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

ND, God showed up after you did. Clovis showed up after that. Zombie Robots way after that.

Okay. It's felt like they've been here as long as I have. I didn't check numbers on them. They've been kicking around at least a year if not longer, correct?


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:29:56 pm PDT #5223 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Have we EVER opened Lightbulbs without ultimately voting?

Yip. I made a proposal and withdrew it; I think it was starting a general TV thread, although I could be misremembering.


lori - Apr 13, 2005 1:30:42 pm PDT #5224 of 10289

They've been kicking around at least a year if not longer, correct?

Would it help to hear that they bugged me from however long they've been here? Just because people don't always voice their objections from the get-go doesn't mean that everything is peachy.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:30:48 pm PDT #5225 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I have to scoot off to an appointment; I'm not stomping off in a huff, I'm tiptoeing away. Carry on.


msbelle - Apr 13, 2005 1:33:25 pm PDT #5226 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

In that instance, then there is probably a place that doesn't allow sockpuppets that those who don't like them can go to. But, they don't cause they like it here. Just like the sockpuppets do.

that's true and if the sockpuppets posted primarily in places I visit I might have already left or if their posting became a commonplace thing, I might still. I have no issue with the fact that this place may evolve into somewhere that I don't want to be anymore. For the time being, when changes come along that start shifting it in a way I don't enjoy, I'll try to work against those changes.


DavidS - Apr 13, 2005 1:33:34 pm PDT #5227 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One thing that occurs to me while reading through this was this scenario:

What if a sockpuppet made a proposal in Bureau and four other sockpuppets seconded it?

Would we common-sensically dismiss it? What if somebody posted as often as a sockpuppet as they did with their regular identity? What if they started using one sockpuppet in LoTR and that's where people who frequented that thread knew that person best? Which is the "real" vote-having persona at b.org then?

Allowing it just seems to open the door to abuses which would be troubling, while disallowing it doesn't have much negative effect. (To me, anyway.)

I haven't minded it that much so far. Just little jokes, like trying on an attitude. Improv. But the more often different sockpuppets happen in the main threads, the more I feel kind of queasy about the issue.