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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


lori - Apr 13, 2005 1:30:42 pm PDT #5224 of 10289

They've been kicking around at least a year if not longer, correct?

Would it help to hear that they bugged me from however long they've been here? Just because people don't always voice their objections from the get-go doesn't mean that everything is peachy.


Betsy HP - Apr 13, 2005 1:30:48 pm PDT #5225 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

I have to scoot off to an appointment; I'm not stomping off in a huff, I'm tiptoeing away. Carry on.


msbelle - Apr 13, 2005 1:33:25 pm PDT #5226 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

In that instance, then there is probably a place that doesn't allow sockpuppets that those who don't like them can go to. But, they don't cause they like it here. Just like the sockpuppets do.

that's true and if the sockpuppets posted primarily in places I visit I might have already left or if their posting became a commonplace thing, I might still. I have no issue with the fact that this place may evolve into somewhere that I don't want to be anymore. For the time being, when changes come along that start shifting it in a way I don't enjoy, I'll try to work against those changes.


DavidS - Apr 13, 2005 1:33:34 pm PDT #5227 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One thing that occurs to me while reading through this was this scenario:

What if a sockpuppet made a proposal in Bureau and four other sockpuppets seconded it?

Would we common-sensically dismiss it? What if somebody posted as often as a sockpuppet as they did with their regular identity? What if they started using one sockpuppet in LoTR and that's where people who frequented that thread knew that person best? Which is the "real" vote-having persona at b.org then?

Allowing it just seems to open the door to abuses which would be troubling, while disallowing it doesn't have much negative effect. (To me, anyway.)

I haven't minded it that much so far. Just little jokes, like trying on an attitude. Improv. But the more often different sockpuppets happen in the main threads, the more I feel kind of queasy about the issue.


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2005 1:34:01 pm PDT #5228 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Would it help to hear that they bugged me from however long they've been here? Just because people don't always voice their objections from the get-go doesn't mean that everything is peachy.

And I can understand that. However I'm on the opposite side and I've found them pretty funny when they've popped up. Zombies and Ferret discussions have really brightened some days for me, and the back and forth between Clovis and MiracleMan is something I genuniely miss.


Allyson - Apr 13, 2005 1:35:52 pm PDT #5229 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's not like Lightbulbs has existed so long as to have an enormous weight of precedence.

Is the sockpuppet worry about what might happen, or what just happened, or both?

Is the worst case scenario:

I hate ita. I always have. She makes me mad all the time. But as Allyson, I feel like I can't tarnish my good name by telling ita how I really feel. So one day, when I have FINALLY HAD ENOUGH of ita, I go psychotic and change my name to Earl the Bent, and go nuts on ita. I tell her I'm a lurker and I've been reading her and she sucks. I get all those years of hatred out, and I feel like I've been cleansed.

Then I happily go back to being Allyson, and ita is none the wiser.

Because I don't think you can legislate that.


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2005 1:38:16 pm PDT #5230 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because I don't think you can legislate that

No, but I will hunt you down and kill you.

FWIW.

However, if a decision is made that sockpuppets are against code, then it may very be caught even before you get launched and booted.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2005 1:38:25 pm PDT #5231 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Allowing it just seems to open the door to abuses which would be troubling, while disallowing it doesn't have much negative effect. (To me, anyway.)

The downside seems to be:

However I'm on the opposite side and I've found them pretty funny when they've popped up.

Fine, they bug some people, but other people are amused. Who's supposed to win here? I do understand people's dislike/annoyance/hatred of sockpuppets, but I have a real problem with board policy being decided by who is most bothered by something.


Kristen - Apr 13, 2005 1:38:29 pm PDT #5232 of 10289

"One account per customer. Please don't set up multiple accounts under different names.

Okay, so I have two accounts. (I actually might have three. There was a thing after OoG aired and I couldn't log in and had to make another account because I needed to post right. that. second. and I have severe impulse control issues. If anyone sees a stray KristenSGC account floating around, feel free to give it the axe.)

One is, obviously, this one. The other one is bitterchick.

I've been considering going back to bitterchick, for personal reasons, but I would like the ability to still be Kristen in Minearverse. I don't consider either a "sock puppet" account but, under this proposal, I guess one of them would be.

So does that mean that, if this passes, I need to pick a single user name and then, probably, limit what threads I post in?


Connie Neil - Apr 13, 2005 1:38:37 pm PDT #5233 of 10289
brillig

What I'm afraid of with this is the syndrome of "Oh, by the way, I've always hated psueds all in lower case, they really bother me. It's not that much of a problem to have the initial letters upper-case, and the inconvenience is outweighed by the annoyance that's avoided."

Or whatever will come up next.

When we irritate no one, no one will be here.