Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
For the people who want the Lite Land material, if it was clear from the thread rules that heavier spoilers would be whitefonted, and everyone in thread tried to enforce the rules via themselves and the occasional stompyage, would that work?
I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass, but a Lite thread like that would essentially lose its whitefont, and the ability to "choose your poison" without risking total spoilage. It may seem like melodramatic hair-splitting, but one fatal spoil and, for some of us, countless episodes can be ruined.
And you're trying to cater to two separate audiences (albeit with some overlap) with one thread. It's just like asking the Lost denizens if they would mind if the Alias fans used their thread for discussion, but completely whitefonted.
At the end of the day, if that's what people want, cool. But I'm honestly never going to venture into a thread with whitefonted hard core spoilers. (I hope I'm not coming off as stubborn and selfish, I'm just trying to be honest.)
Lite thread like that would essentially lose its whitefont
Why?
Because you couldn't whitefont spoiler Lite and expect your Lite-only pals to read it and discuss, and conversely, you couldn't indiscriminately highlight whitefont without risking major spoilage. Yes, you could labor to clearly mark each whitefont as "Lite spoiler with some tv guide info," or "heavy, irreversibly damaging spoiler bomb" but I don't think that's very practical. And in the end, one person fails to do it right, and regardless of post-facto stompy correction, you've been spoiled.
Yeah, no poll. It was useful for the other recent proposal since it validated the interest in a Lost thread. Here we just need an up and down vote.
I can see that. You can't have an up and down vote on something that contains two issues, though. A vote on whitefont-free spoilers in the general thread is concrete enough to vote on.
Then later, if still needed, a vote on issues related to the whitefont policy of some other thread.
you couldn't whitefont spoiler Lite and expect your Lite-only pals to read it and discuss
I believe we learn a number of ways of communicating, and although non bar full disclosure are without threat of error, I am convinced you can. You're saying you won't (or eventually won't), which is quite different.
From my naive point of view, noting something like
[Charmed, lite]
Jane Seymour will be appearing in a three episode arc.
[charmed, lite]
Dude, isn't she dead?
is quite possible. I even think it practical. I think it's important to distinguish one from the other.
...is quite possible. I even think it practical. I think it's important to distinguish one from the other.
Exactly. I don't equate possible with practical. (Not that you necessarily do either, but your example merely asserts that labeling is possible, and fails to demonstrate its practicality.) And we disagree about the practical application of clearly labeled headers to every whitefont. Not to mention varying levels of spoiler lite, and the potential harm if the labeling isn't done right.
fails to demonstrate its practicality
Can you demonstrate its impracticality? How does one demonstrate practicality, anyway, short of a POC?
varying levels of spoiler lite
You guys say you know how lite is defined, and that it will be part of the definition. If that's indeed a problem, it will be a problem in a lite thread anyway.
Can you demonstrate its impracticality? How does one demonstrate practicality, anyway, short of a POC?
What's a POC? And it's tough to demonstrate practicality. My opinion is that a lot of folks are going to have trouble with your proposed system, and although it can be done, it won't be done. But that's just my opinion.
You guys say you know how lite is defined, and that it will be part of the definition. If that's indeed a problem, it will be a problem in a lite thread anyway.
Yes, but the risk of uncovering an improperly labeled lite spoiler is assumed upon entering the thread. And since the harm is not nearly as grave as uncovering a hard core spoiler, it's a more tolerable risk than the one you'd have to assume entering a Lite thread that allowed labeled hard core spoilers and you risked an improperly labeled one.
No doubt x-posty: POC = proof of concept
The no whitefont in the general thread proposal seems to have been defeated in discussion. I think it needs a vote.
The no whitefont in the general thread proposal seems to have been defeated in discussion. I think it needs a vote.
I don't think I understand this, Gus. From what I've read, there was much support for a no-white-font spoiler thread. The thread(s) at issue is/are those of the less blatantly spoiling variety (iow lite versus all white font + labels).
