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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2004 1:19:47 pm PDT #4966 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you couldn't whitefont spoiler Lite and expect your Lite-only pals to read it and discuss

I believe we learn a number of ways of communicating, and although non bar full disclosure are without threat of error, I am convinced you can. You're saying you won't (or eventually won't), which is quite different.

From my naive point of view, noting something like

[Charmed, lite] Jane Seymour will be appearing in a three episode arc.

[charmed, lite] Dude, isn't she dead?

is quite possible. I even think it practical. I think it's important to distinguish one from the other.


Wolfram - Oct 28, 2004 1:25:10 pm PDT #4967 of 10289
Visilurking

...is quite possible. I even think it practical. I think it's important to distinguish one from the other.

Exactly. I don't equate possible with practical. (Not that you necessarily do either, but your example merely asserts that labeling is possible, and fails to demonstrate its practicality.) And we disagree about the practical application of clearly labeled headers to every whitefont. Not to mention varying levels of spoiler lite, and the potential harm if the labeling isn't done right.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2004 1:27:03 pm PDT #4968 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

fails to demonstrate its practicality

Can you demonstrate its impracticality? How does one demonstrate practicality, anyway, short of a POC?

varying levels of spoiler lite

You guys say you know how lite is defined, and that it will be part of the definition. If that's indeed a problem, it will be a problem in a lite thread anyway.


Wolfram - Oct 28, 2004 1:34:34 pm PDT #4969 of 10289
Visilurking

Can you demonstrate its impracticality? How does one demonstrate practicality, anyway, short of a POC?

What's a POC? And it's tough to demonstrate practicality. My opinion is that a lot of folks are going to have trouble with your proposed system, and although it can be done, it won't be done. But that's just my opinion.

You guys say you know how lite is defined, and that it will be part of the definition. If that's indeed a problem, it will be a problem in a lite thread anyway.

Yes, but the risk of uncovering an improperly labeled lite spoiler is assumed upon entering the thread. And since the harm is not nearly as grave as uncovering a hard core spoiler, it's a more tolerable risk than the one you'd have to assume entering a Lite thread that allowed labeled hard core spoilers and you risked an improperly labeled one.


Gus - Oct 28, 2004 1:41:27 pm PDT #4970 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

No doubt x-posty: POC = proof of concept

The no whitefont in the general thread proposal seems to have been defeated in discussion. I think it needs a vote.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 28, 2004 1:43:21 pm PDT #4971 of 10289
What is even happening?

The no whitefont in the general thread proposal seems to have been defeated in discussion. I think it needs a vote.
I don't think I understand this, Gus. From what I've read, there was much support for a no-white-font spoiler thread. The thread(s) at issue is/are those of the less blatantly spoiling variety (iow lite versus all white font + labels).


Laura - Oct 28, 2004 1:46:01 pm PDT #4972 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

Is the possibility of white font of lite spoilers in the general show discussion thread and/or Natter on the table?


Lee - Oct 28, 2004 1:49:46 pm PDT #4973 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

It's clear Wolfram doesn't like the idea of combining Whitefont land and Lite Land. How do the other Spoiler lite folks feel?


Gus - Oct 28, 2004 1:53:30 pm PDT #4974 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Huh. Yes, I construed the discussion of whitefont policies/methods as being an alternative to no-holds-barred in the general spoiler thread.

My bad. I will very carefully not have an opinion about the semi-spoiled thread, as I won't be going in there. My present plan is to just avoid stuff I don't want to read in the no-holds-barred thread by superhuman restraint.


Wolfram - Oct 28, 2004 1:54:48 pm PDT #4975 of 10289
Visilurking

It's clear Wolfram doesn't like the idea of combining Whitefont land and Lite Land. How do the other Spoiler lite folks feel?

You mean it's not all about what Wolfram wants?

Humph.