Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


amych - Oct 27, 2004 4:39:03 pm PDT #4917 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

If there's a stink of nostalgia around these discussions (and I'm the first twelfth to admit there is) I suspect it's because both Spoilers and Lite have been badly missed.

I can't comment on the old Lite discussions, because that thread was never a home for me. In fact, I voted to get rid of it because I thought it was pretty pointless whenever I did drop in, and, being sometimes incredibly thick about reading other people, I was genuinely shocked when people were so upset that it was gone. (Sorry about that.) If we're talking about having some kind of lite thread again, those people are the ones I'm going to listen to about what constitutes a reasonable way to shape that thread. Not out of nostalgia, but because they made what I thought to be an impossible compromise thread work before. (I'm still not gonna hang there. Nothing personal.)

I've already blathered about my thoughts on the question of whitefont in the hardcore thread, both here and in the spoiler thread. For anyone who hasn't dared to venture over there, I'll just restate

the spoiler zone has always been the place to read and write unrestricted, without extra coding, shit to click on, and (absolutely most importantly of all) having to worry all the time about "am I allowed to say that in this particular thread before the third Tuesday after the full moon". It's about being able to put your feet up on the coffee table after the in-laws leave, not about whether [we have to highlight a whitefont].
Spoilers are the meat we've been missing since Angel ended, but the greater value is the feel of the discussion. And that's what I'll vote for.


Deena - Oct 27, 2004 4:40:02 pm PDT #4918 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Deena, if you are a person who wants lite, but not what I'm saying in number 2, could you please explain it to me

Cindy, I'm sorry. It was entirely clear in my mind. Duh. Like Wolfram, I don't want to be spoiled for plot points, but for me, it's not an inadvertent spoil. I'd see the bits of conversation going on and I'd try to look at the stuff that seemed to be on the fringes, and before you know it, I'd know the whole season. I never thought being spoiled or not would matter to me, but I discovered during the last season of Angel that I just enjoyed the show less if I knew what was coming. I just have no self-control if it's right there in front of me.

I'd be okay with Brenda's #2.


le nubian - Oct 27, 2004 4:51:05 pm PDT #4919 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay folks, I understand that a Lost or nothing thread has no appeal. That's clearly off the table.

So, it sounds to me like the choices will be two threads: one white-font, one no holds barred.


Deena - Oct 27, 2004 4:58:22 pm PDT #4920 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I shouldn't even bother to post if I can't do it without it being hopelessly out of date (baby emergency). Sorry LeN. I'm just trying to help. I shall stop it. I agree that the two you've named make the most sense.


DavidS - Oct 27, 2004 5:17:21 pm PDT #4921 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You do realize Le Nub, that when you blithely proposed the thread in Bureaucracy, all the battle-scarred veterans were holding their breath, as if the new Mom in the neighborhood had volunteered to organize the bake sale with no knowledge of the hot cross bun riot of '82.


Deena - Oct 27, 2004 5:18:09 pm PDT #4922 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

That one was a bitch. Icing and raisins everywhere.


le nubian - Oct 27, 2004 5:18:42 pm PDT #4923 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

(laughing out loud)

no. I did not realize this. :-)


DavidS - Oct 27, 2004 5:28:39 pm PDT #4924 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

no. I did not realize this. :-)

Yeah, if you go back to Spoilers you'll see that I'm the first person to raise the issue. And then again, I was the person to raise the issue in Bureau. But did I propose the thread? No. 'Cuz I knew you'd just shrug if I said the phrase "preferential voting" whereas for most of us there's an involuntary flinch at its mention.


amych - Oct 27, 2004 5:30:25 pm PDT #4925 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Is it a flinch? I always think of it as more of a twitch.

(edited to remove evil)


le nubian - Oct 27, 2004 5:30:46 pm PDT #4926 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

heh. oh dear.