Not perfect for discussion, but it's a start.

I don't see how it works for discussion at all, if I have to post it elsewhere and come back and link to it here, I might as well be talking somewhere else.

My suggestion for the lovely LeN would be to propose the variant types of spoiler "light" threads when it comes up to a vote.

FTR, I think individual show spoiler threads would be wronger than a wrong thing, although the most literal solution to the problem.

My dream spoilers light thread would include writers, themes, links, speculation about tv guide and other entertainment magazine articles (whitefonted/linked at the users' discretion for spoilery articles), visiting stars and/or additions to the cast, but no hard core definite spoils. Just speculation with cream instead of 2%.

And Deena's vision, to me, sounds like the dream show thread. I think in the last seasons of Buffy and Angel, we lost a lot of that kind of stuff from the main threads in favor of a big watch and post, followed by a dead thread for the rest of the week.

I'm not blaming the shift on Spoilers Light, incidentally -- in the same period, there was increasing show malaise, the huge growth of new venues like LJ, and don't you know that there's a war on. But I miss having show discussions that range a little wider than OMGWTF did you just see that?, and I'm not sure how it constitutes a spoiler thread at all.

I think I was thinking in terms of you needing to find the spoilers, not so much discussing them - and in that case, no, this proposed thread ain't gonna do it.

Amych, I'd prefer that, too. Maybe we can mutilate tweak the Lost thread to fit our vision.

And Deena's vision, to me, sounds like the dream show thread.

I had the same thought!

I've never seen cast changes or writers or episode titles -- basically anythng on the regular TV Guide level -- as a spoiler, and I would love to have a community where I could talk about those things without whitefont.

And DX, I hope I didn't sound like I was blaming you, because I don't. Minor annoyance, is all.

I do think that erring on the side of whitefont was the way to go, DX. Some things can't be stuffed back into the box.

I've never seen cast changes or writers or episode titles -- basically anythng on the regular TV Guide level -- as a spoiler, and I would love to have a community where I could talk about those things without whitefont.

If we were going to change the definition of "spoiler" for a thread--which is something that we've worked out painfully and at great length--I'd really appreciate us doing it via vote. Because as y'all may remember, I do see some of those things as spoilers.

If we were going to change the definition of "spoiler" for a thread--which is something that we've worked out painfully and at great length--I'd really appreciate us doing it via vote.

I did not mean to suggest we do anything else, Katie. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear that I was just stating an opinion.

Okay, thanks. I just wanted to, you know, get my foot in the door before it closed.