And because I'm just a little deeply resentful over the fact that the new spoilers thread I voted on was whitefont policy tbd and all of a sudden it was all whitefont all the time with no discussion that I can find anywhere.

Yeah, that kind of bugged me, too. My vision when I put it into the proposal was that the first posts in there would be "okay, what's our whitefont policy?," and we'd hash it out in-thread, as we are now. It seemed like the header set the policy, though I doubt DX meant for it to.

because I thought the idea was that the new spoilers lite would be for ita's latter description

I'm glad you clarified that. My usage of a spoilers-lite thread would be only one that keeps all spoilers lite. If folks want to create a spoilers-all-white-fonted thread so you could pick and choose which shows to get spoiled for, I might support that, but I wouldn't use it.

Can't it be both? Casting, writers, etc., fair game, TV Guide stuff whitefonted, but more hard core stuff linked. Won't that work for people with ita's needs? You won't be able to read it in thread, but know where to go to get it. Not perfect for discussion, but it's a start.

I thought about saying "discuss the spoiler policy" in my first post, but I just figured you'd do it anyway, because that's what had been discussed. Also, Jen had beaten me to the first post in Lost, and I was in a hurry. Sorry.

Not perfect for discussion, but it's a start.

I don't see how it works for discussion at all, if I have to post it elsewhere and come back and link to it here, I might as well be talking somewhere else.

My suggestion for the lovely LeN would be to propose the variant types of spoiler "light" threads when it comes up to a vote.

FTR, I think individual show spoiler threads would be wronger than a wrong thing, although the most literal solution to the problem.

My dream spoilers light thread would include writers, themes, links, speculation about tv guide and other entertainment magazine articles (whitefonted/linked at the users' discretion for spoilery articles), visiting stars and/or additions to the cast, but no hard core definite spoils. Just speculation with cream instead of 2%.

And Deena's vision, to me, sounds like the dream show thread. I think in the last seasons of Buffy and Angel, we lost a lot of that kind of stuff from the main threads in favor of a big watch and post, followed by a dead thread for the rest of the week.

I'm not blaming the shift on Spoilers Light, incidentally -- in the same period, there was increasing show malaise, the huge growth of new venues like LJ, and don't you know that there's a war on. But I miss having show discussions that range a little wider than OMGWTF did you just see that?, and I'm not sure how it constitutes a spoiler thread at all.

I think I was thinking in terms of you needing to find the spoilers, not so much discussing them - and in that case, no, this proposed thread ain't gonna do it.

Amych, I'd prefer that, too. Maybe we can mutilate tweak the Lost thread to fit our vision.

And Deena's vision, to me, sounds like the dream show thread.

I had the same thought!

I've never seen cast changes or writers or episode titles -- basically anythng on the regular TV Guide level -- as a spoiler, and I would love to have a community where I could talk about those things without whitefont.

And DX, I hope I didn't sound like I was blaming you, because I don't. Minor annoyance, is all.