billy-- I think the announcement in Press doesn't have to include the text of the ballow. Those are ballot instructions. (Jon is doing ballot, I am doing the announcement).

Fair enough. I'm good with that.

Do you think the whole thing should go in the Press, and more importantly, do you think we should wait?

I think if we've voted on these time limits, we should probably stick to them. I can't really point to much of a mandate in how to present this particular vote (well, I guess we do have an old-style consensus level, but I don't know how to treat that now), but there is at least a mandate to get things moving on time. But I recognise this is hardly a perfect way forward either, and I don't think it'll be a serious problem if there's a delay.

I don't mind trying PV, but I also don't want to alienate people who hate it for whatever reason. It's not worth that.

Yeah. Right now I'm just hoping one option gets over half the primary vote, and it all turns out to be a non-issue this time round.

Nonetheless, I don't think we can go forward with the ballot quite yet with this kind of disagreement. So sit on it until tomorrow night Sophia, I think.

This sounds good. Not end of world to wait. Sleep tight Sophia.

Billytea, I loved your description of the signs and whatnot. It's almost as good as anthropomorphized numbers! Oh, who am I kidding? It's better.

'Night Sophia, sleep well.

Edited to point out that I got the best number, because the 4 is a kind and gentle soul who cares for everyone and keeps a red cape in his backpack just in case of emergencies.

Which is not to say that 4 is the one true number. No, I think 6 is more capable of handling the political responsibilities of the position.

Woof. Radical interpretation of the text. What's your reasoning seems like a fair way of asking how you're thinking about it.

No.

Not at all. It's not at all a radical interpretation of the text.

What's your reasoning sounds like "you are WRONG, Fucker! Justify your piss-ass self!"

Pardon the ASSCAPS!

I have been too lazy to use the quick edits tonight, so have been ASSCAPPING instead.

I have already stated a hundred times (HYPERBOLE!) my objections to ANY use of JUST THIS ONCE. I don't feel like I have to do so AGAIN.

Because fuck, man, I've done that already. (Also, sorry it was last minute, I've been slammed at work and was gone most of the weekend.)

Billytea, I loved your description of the signs and whatnot. It's almost as good as anthropomorphized numbers! Oh, who am I kidding? It's better.

Hee. I'm glad you liked it. I'd anthropomorphise the voting options, but I'd wind up feeling sorry for 4, the bastard stepchild selling matches in the snow of the numerical system. (6, of course, is all 'let 4 eat cake', carrying the hauteur that comes from being the early front-runner and, after all, perfect.)

Yes, Billy, it's true, 6 is a haughty number, but it's because she's had so much responsibility so young, and handles it with grace. I don't think she'd be rude to 4 though. She'd probably buy a match.

So how are we going to figure this out tomorrow? Are we letting everyone have their say until noon, and then trying to get a consensus out of that?

If that's the case then what was the issue with having a consensus by midnight tonight? I'm only asking because I don't know how to get out of this.

remember when we couldn't talk about low carb diets in Natter. This is what preferential voting feels like to me...

Night all!

Oh-- not good night!

Heather-- I completely see where you are coming from. I think if consensus isn't reached, someone else will have to post the announcement (and actually, if it is at noon someone will anyway because I am in a meeting) because I am not willing right now to take it upon myself when things don't seem agreed upon.

My instinct say that a run-off and never again talking about pref ballots is the answer right now, because unless the no-pref people object to a run-off, the only thing the pref ballot does is save potential wasted time polling twice. So pro-pref people will get the same result with a run-off.