OK-- there are 6 minutes left until I am supposed to post this puppy.

Can someone else weigh in on whether or not to do so? I am really torn.

billy-- I think the announcement in Press doesn't have to include the text of the ballow. Those are ballot instructions. (Jon is doing ballot, I am doing the announcement).

Do you think the whole thing should go in the Press, and more importantly, do you think we should wait?

Fuck it. I'm going to bed. I'm really pissed that two people came on here at the last minute with ass-cap objections and won't even say why. I don't have time to redo the ballot. If you don't want to do preferential voting, don't pick a second choice. It'll submit either way. Good night.

Sophia, I wouldn't post it until a majority of, at least recent, posters come and tell you to do so. If it doesn't go up, the world doesn't stop turning. I'm not telling you to because I just caught up and I don't like the rancorous feeling I'm getting.

I don't mind trying PV, but I also don't want to alienate people who hate it for whatever reason. It's not worth that.

I'm with you Deena on that last part. It's just... didn't we say that we would have a discussion for so many days and then voting would start?

Yes Heather-- tis is what I am torn about.

I feel like by posting I am making an executive decision to do it this way that I have no right to.

By not posting, I feel like I am a) going back on what we said we would do and my word to post it.

Also, I really need to go to bed.

Yes, we did, but I'm not seeing a bunch of people dashing in here saying, "Where's the ballot? I want it now! Let's vote PV!" Or "Let's have a runoff!"

So, who made Sophia carry the world, erm, phoenix? That's too much responsibility for something that has people fractious already.

As Jon notes, what would've been considered a Buffista consensus was reached about trying the preferential voting. I don't know how else we're going to use this space to craft a ballot without using that kind of consensus.

Nonetheless, I don't think we can go forward with the ballot quite yet with this kind of disagreement. So sit on it until tomorrow night Sophia, I think.

Let's make sure everybody is heard. If there's a strong preference for doing the runoff we should do that. Like Jon, I heard a strong preference for trying the preferential voting, but let's make sure this discussion is not pushed through because of who happens to be online at this time.

Sophia, I think you should go to bed and then we should decide, somehow, by noon tomorrow, and post it at noon. Sure, that's not what we voted, but obviously, we haven't yet decided, despite the arbitrary number of days -- so maybe that's something about the last vote that isn't going to work as we'd hoped.

I feel for you doll.

Perhaps we can ask for any last words on it?