Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


msbelle - Jul 07, 2004 7:55:45 am PDT #4153 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

my issue is over resources.


msbelle - Jul 07, 2004 7:56:05 am PDT #4154 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Hayden - Jul 07, 2004 7:59:46 am PDT #4155 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

my issue is over resources.

That, to me, is the most compelling argument. I don't want to have to pony up more often just so part of the community can have their own place, even if I'm in that part of the community. That said, I've never set foot into Bitches, even once, so I'm not sure if the whole pay-to-play scenario is even accurate.

Has anyone in the know about resources weighed in on the issue? I've only read back about 100 posts.


Betsy HP - Jul 07, 2004 8:03:23 am PDT #4156 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Ditto on resources. ita has weighed in (again) as being anti-proliferation; she's familiar with the server issues.


msbelle - Jul 07, 2004 8:09:08 am PDT #4157 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

what I know about the issues it that we are ok now. We are on a dedicated server. But, the backend issues are not fixed and there isn't a set date when they will be. We also don;t know what the fix will do wrt server issues.

I know the DVD release will be coming, the BDM will be coming, eventually Tim will start posting again, the animated series? is happening. And the new fall TV line-up.

I would rather not have to deal with a potential issue and start choosing what to shut down.

I think that until we have fixed our issues, there is a big internet out there that can fill needs not being met here.


Miracleman - Jul 07, 2004 8:09:20 am PDT #4158 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Discussions of other books during a book club discussion is extremely distracting and counterproductive.

As I said before, I feel that's a failure on the part of the posters involved. If a discussion can't be maintained because of something shiny...

If this club were to repurpose literary into the book club thread there would be resentment from previous users of literary.

I don't recall any member of Literary who wasn't advocating a Book Club thread expressing any concern whatsoever that this would happen. This seems to me to be an argument made up by advocates of the Book Club thread.

A Book Club is not a conversation. It is a serious endeavor that requires participants, commitment, and focus.

In light of the first part of this post (something shiny) I don't see how having a thread specifically for it is going to suddenly engender a commitment and focus that you can't maintain in Literary. If you can't do it now, why should I believe you can do it in a Book Club thread?


Michele T. - Jul 07, 2004 8:09:42 am PDT #4159 of 10289
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

On the other hand, as Hec noted, there are several threads which will be low-activity or could be closed come the fall. So it might end up being a wash.

Am I wrong in thinking there is nothing that can be done until MySQL fixes their bug?


Hayden - Jul 07, 2004 8:14:53 am PDT #4160 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

If server resources are an issue, would it be worth discussing closing and archiving threads that aren't in use so much these days? Like the Firefly and Wonderfalls threads?


Daisy Jane - Jul 07, 2004 8:15:23 am PDT #4161 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Right, but she always is as a rule. I believe the first thing she said about it was that it wasn't a problem but she wanted it to be part of what we considered.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2004 8:15:54 am PDT #4162 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Am I wrong in thinking there is nothing that can be done until MySQL fixes their bug?

tommyrot is currently exploring converting to PostgresSQL -- we're a wee bit of coding shy of load testing. If that doesn't work, there's also rearchitecting (within limits) the MySQL code.

We are working on it. Details are in BBaBB.