If server resources are an issue, would it be worth discussing closing and archiving threads that aren't in use so much these days? Like the Firefly and Wonderfalls threads?

Right, but she always is as a rule. I believe the first thing she said about it was that it wasn't a problem but she wanted it to be part of what we considered.

Am I wrong in thinking there is nothing that can be done until MySQL fixes their bug?

tommyrot is currently exploring converting to PostgresSQL -- we're a wee bit of coding shy of load testing. If that doesn't work, there's also rearchitecting (within limits) the MySQL code.

We are working on it. Details are in BBaBB.

I don't recall any member of Literary who wasn't advocating a Book Club thread expressing any concern whatsoever that this would happen. This seems to me to be an argument made up by advocates of the Book Club thread.

Er, I was the first one to raise this issue, and I don't particularly want a Book Club thread.

Like the Firefly and Wonderfalls threads?

There isn't a Wonderfalls thread, unless you mean spoilers, and the Firefly has had on-topic posts as recently as yesterday.

Once open, really hard to close. Which is why I figure that if a book club won't work in Literary, we'll soon know if we try. Then open a thread.

she always is as a rule

Well, the issue still exists -- until that changes, why should I?

Can we not point fingers at anyone IOW "It's your fault you can't get a good discussion going." and "It's their fault we can't do it in an existing thread."?

I don't recall any member of Literary who wasn't advocating a Book Club thread expressing any concern whatsoever that this would happen. This seems to me to be an argument made up by advocates of the Book Club thread.

In light of the first part of this post (something shiny) I don't see how having a thread specifically for it is going to suddenly engender a commitment and focus that you can't maintain in Literary. If you can't do it now, why should I believe you can do it in a Book Club thread?

MM, I guess the question I have is, short of a resource issue, why be concerned? If people want to talk amongst themselves about any issue, and especially if no one is specifically excluded from joining them, what's the harm? It seems to me that the real dollar concern over greater server space is more of an issue. ita, since I don't know where you posted about this, is this board approaching capacity to the point that we need to think about greater server space if we take on another thread or was your position against the book club based on something else?

Edit - OK, that seems like a partial answer. ita is opposed to new threads on principle, but not necessarily because of a new crisis specific to this thread. Does that seem accurate?

I wasn't saying you should. I was just saying that it comes up with every thread.

voting is what day?

ita is opposed to new threads on principle, but not necessarily because of a new crisis specific to this thread. Does that seem accurate?

Any step that gets us more locked into needing more expensive infrastructure is a bad thing -- that is my basic principle. Additional threads are such a step. This thread may be worse than others, I don't know, I'm not getting that far into analysing ahead of data.

I was just saying that it comes up with every thread.

Well, yeah. I'd hate that to devalue it, just because I always say it. I mention it because it's true.

voting is what day?

Proposed on the 5th, so 4 days discussion takes us to the 9th.